[Etoys] WYSIwiki paper

Bert Freudenberg bert at freudenbergs.de
Fri Jan 26 12:34:01 EST 2007

Rename the download to


and open it.

Besides, the attachment was delivered fine to mailing list  
subscribers, so the problem surely is on your end.

- Bert -

On Jan 26, 2007, at 18:10 , Richard Karpinski wrote:

> Dear helpers-of-the-flummoxed,
> I want to read this paper, thrice over.
> I was disappointed to see that the attachment was scrubbed.
> In one of my fits to remake the world to my liking, I formed a  
> thought to suggest that scrubbed attachments be put somewhere to be  
> downloaded at will. When I approached that task I noticed the  
> several lines below the scrubbed message. This pleased me a great  
> deal. Not only had someone else had such a thought, they had built  
> it in to the open source mailing list system itself. Wonderful!
> Just clicking on the URL did something which stole my computer for  
> quite a long while. How do I avoid that? It really annoys me for  
> every Firefox download initiation.
> But something was downloaded.
> It was not the PDF I had hoped for but something called  
> WYSIwikiTakashiYoshikiScott.obj which looked promising. I boldly  
> tried to open it, on my Macintosh Desktop but then it asks me what  
> application to use to open it. I dunno. Perhaps Mailman could be  
> encouraged to point as well to a fuller explanation of how to  
> retrieve such attachments.
> Help!
> Could Mailman also be induced to suggest a FAQ or two to relieve  
> the list from the more boring of these requests for the most basic  
> assistance? For example, is there a better resource than Google for  
> finding tutorial material for Etoys or Squeak? (I do tend to  
> escalate every minor difficulty I encounter into a project to save  
> the world.)
> This whole thing was provoked by:
>> Yes, it is much too early to talk about the new architecture (we are
>> still thinking). However, it will be along the lines (but quite a bit
>> further) of the WYSIwiki that we did as an experiment last year  
>> (and is
>> written up in an excellent paper by Takashi Yamamiya, Yoshiki  
>> Ohshima,
>> and Scott Wallace that was just presented at C5 in Kyoto.
> ...
>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
>> Name: WYSIwikiTakashiYoshikiScott.pdf
>> Type: application/octet-stream
>> Size: 399766 bytes
>> Desc: not available
>> Url : http://mailman.laptop.org/pipermail/etoys/attachments/ 
>> 20070125/ce492410/WYSIwikiTakashiYoshikiScott.obj
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