Devel Digest, Vol 132, Issue 2

[Peter Robinson]

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Tony Anderson <tony_anderson at usa.net> wrote:
> Hi, Peter
>
> Sorry, must be age creeping up. I certainly thought I had read the email.
>
> Yet as I read your text the phrases: 'could actually run', 'would just
> need', and  'might work OOTB' suggests the need for some testing.
>
> Generally, the best place to start fixing is to locate the problem as
> exactly as possible.

Yes, but that needs time, and that I don't have as stated in the
thread previously. So was giving general direction for those that
might have the time/interest/ability.

> Tony
>
>
> On 09/18/2017 01:04 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Tony Anderson <tony_anderson at usa.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Has anyone tested a current fedora release on an XO model? It would seem
>>> reasonable to install Fedora with the gnome desktop independent of Sugar
>>> as
>>> a starting point.
>>
>> Why don't you actually read the thread you're replying to. Userspace
>> will be fine, needs kernel work as they need a newer kernel.
>>
>> The ARM XOs could actually as of Fedora 26 run with a completely open
>> userspace with the entaviv kernel if someone does the work for those
>> devices to boot on a current kernel. In theory the XO 1.75 would just
>> need a devicetree plus driver upstreaming. The 1.5 might work OOTB but
>> there are some drivers that were never upstreamed.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> On 09/17/2017 05:00 PM, devel-request at lists.laptop.org wrote:
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>>>>      1. Porting XO laptops to newer Linux kernels (Samuel Greenfeld)
>>>>      2. Re: Porting XO laptops to newer Linux kernels (Peter Robinson)
>>>>      3. Re: Porting XO laptops to newer Linux kernels
>>>>         (Arne Babenhauserheide)
>>>>
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>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2017 23:28:14 -0400
>>>> From: Samuel Greenfeld <samuel at greenfeld.org>
>>>> To: OLPC Devel <devel at lists.laptop.org>
>>>> Subject: Porting XO laptops to newer Linux kernels
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>>>> It has been a few years (Fedora 18) since the original XO Laptop series
>>>> has
>>>> had any sort of major Operating System update.
>>>>
>>>> In order to support newer versions of Systemd, features found in newer
>>>> versions of the Linux kernel are required.  And from limited exploratory
>>>> work done years ago, the XO-1 mesh networking & XO-1.5 Camera drivers
>>>> may
>>>> need fixing even though they are in upstream kernels.
>>>>
>>>> Are there any low-level kernel developers out there interested in
>>>> porting
>>>> XO laptops (both x86 & ARM) to a Linux 4.x kernel or a later 3.x kernel
>>>> so
>>>> they can be used with newer Linux distributions?  Or should we presume
>>>> that
>>>> all public XO laptop development (apart from minor patching) is
>>>> officially
>>>> dead at this point?
>>>>
>>>> I presume hardware can be made available provided someone has the
>>>> interest.
>>>>
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>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 11:14:00 +0100
>>>> From: Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com>
>>>> To: Samuel Greenfeld <samuel at greenfeld.org>
>>>> Cc: OLPC Devel <devel at lists.laptop.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: Porting XO laptops to newer Linux kernels
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>>>> On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 4:28 AM, Samuel Greenfeld <samuel at greenfeld.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It has been a few years (Fedora 18) since the original XO Laptop series
>>>>> has
>>>>> had any sort of major Operating System update.
>>>>>
>>>>> In order to support newer versions of Systemd, features found in newer
>>>>> versions of the Linux kernel are required.  And from limited
>>>>> exploratory
>>>>> work done years ago, the XO-1 mesh networking & XO-1.5 Camera drivers
>>>>> may
>>>>> need fixing even though they are in upstream kernels.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there any low-level kernel developers out there interested in
>>>>> porting
>>>>> XO
>>>>> laptops (both x86 & ARM) to a Linux 4.x kernel or a later 3.x kernel so
>>>>> they
>>>>> can be used with newer Linux distributions?  Or should we presume that
>>>>> all
>>>>> public XO laptop development (apart from minor patching) is officially
>>>>> dead
>>>>> at this point?
>>>>>
>>>>> I presume hardware can be made available provided someone has the
>>>>> interest.
>>>>
>>>> I would love to see someone get it all upstream so we could just
>>>> support them in vanilla Fedora. I can send HW but unfortunately I
>>>> don't have much time (or ability) to get these bits upstream.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 14:45:59 +0200
>>>> From: Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_bab at web.de>
>>>> To: Samuel Greenfeld <samuel at greenfeld.org>
>>>> Cc: OLPC Devel <devel at lists.laptop.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: Porting XO laptops to newer Linux kernels
>>>> Message-ID: <87vakheb3l.fsf at web.de>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Samuel Greenfeld <samuel at greenfeld.org> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Are there any low-level kernel developers out there interested in
>>>>> porting
>>>>> XO laptops (both x86 & ARM) to a Linux 4.x kernel or a later 3.x kernel
>>>>> so
>>>>> they can be used with newer Linux distributions?  Or should we presume
>>>>> that
>>>>> all public XO laptop development (apart from minor patching) is
>>>>> officially
>>>>> dead at this point?
>>>>
>>>> I am still running an XO-1 with Gentoo (the gentooxo website sadly died,
>>>> but I still use what it provided), but I did not get the newer kernels
>>>> to run, so I’m currently missing out on many features (including sound).
>>>>
>>>> I’d be willing to try again if I could prod someones brain when I hit
>>>> roadblocks. I’m not experienced in low-level kernel development, but
>>>> depending on the problems, perspiration might be able to supplant some
>>>> missing experience :-)
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> Arne
>>>
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