Devel Digest, Vol 132, Issue 2

Mon Sep 18 12:02:29 EDT 2017

Hi, Peter

Sorry, must be age creeping up. I certainly thought I had read the email.

Yet as I read your text the phrases: 'could actually run', 'would just 
need', and  'might work OOTB' suggests the need for some testing.

Generally, the best place to start fixing is to locate the problem as 
exactly as possible.

Tony

On 09/18/2017 01:04 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Tony Anderson <tony_anderson at usa.net> wrote:
>> Has anyone tested a current fedora release on an XO model? It would seem
>> reasonable to install Fedora with the gnome desktop independent of Sugar as
>> a starting point.
> Why don't you actually read the thread you're replying to. Userspace
> will be fine, needs kernel work as they need a newer kernel.
>
> The ARM XOs could actually as of Fedora 26 run with a completely open
> userspace with the entaviv kernel if someone does the work for those
> devices to boot on a current kernel. In theory the XO 1.75 would just
> need a devicetree plus driver upstreaming. The 1.5 might work OOTB but
> there are some drivers that were never upstreamed.
>
> Peter
>
>> Tony
>>
>> On 09/17/2017 05:00 PM, devel-request at lists.laptop.org wrote:
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>>>      1. Porting XO laptops to newer Linux kernels (Samuel Greenfeld)
>>>      2. Re: Porting XO laptops to newer Linux kernels (Peter Robinson)
>>>      3. Re: Porting XO laptops to newer Linux kernels
>>>         (Arne Babenhauserheide)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2017 23:28:14 -0400
>>> From: Samuel Greenfeld <samuel at greenfeld.org>
>>> To: OLPC Devel <devel at lists.laptop.org>
>>> Subject: Porting XO laptops to newer Linux kernels
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>>> It has been a few years (Fedora 18) since the original XO Laptop series
>>> has
>>> had any sort of major Operating System update.
>>>
>>> In order to support newer versions of Systemd, features found in newer
>>> versions of the Linux kernel are required.  And from limited exploratory
>>> work done years ago, the XO-1 mesh networking & XO-1.5 Camera drivers may
>>> need fixing even though they are in upstream kernels.
>>>
>>> Are there any low-level kernel developers out there interested in porting
>>> XO laptops (both x86 & ARM) to a Linux 4.x kernel or a later 3.x kernel so
>>> they can be used with newer Linux distributions?  Or should we presume
>>> that
>>> all public XO laptop development (apart from minor patching) is officially
>>> dead at this point?
>>>
>>> I presume hardware can be made available provided someone has the
>>> interest.
>>>
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>>> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 11:14:00 +0100
>>> From: Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com>
>>> To: Samuel Greenfeld <samuel at greenfeld.org>
>>> Cc: OLPC Devel <devel at lists.laptop.org>
>>> Subject: Re: Porting XO laptops to newer Linux kernels
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>>> On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 4:28 AM, Samuel Greenfeld <samuel at greenfeld.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>> It has been a few years (Fedora 18) since the original XO Laptop series
>>>> has
>>>> had any sort of major Operating System update.
>>>>
>>>> In order to support newer versions of Systemd, features found in newer
>>>> versions of the Linux kernel are required.  And from limited exploratory
>>>> work done years ago, the XO-1 mesh networking & XO-1.5 Camera drivers may
>>>> need fixing even though they are in upstream kernels.
>>>>
>>>> Are there any low-level kernel developers out there interested in porting
>>>> XO
>>>> laptops (both x86 & ARM) to a Linux 4.x kernel or a later 3.x kernel so
>>>> they
>>>> can be used with newer Linux distributions?  Or should we presume that
>>>> all
>>>> public XO laptop development (apart from minor patching) is officially
>>>> dead
>>>> at this point?
>>>>
>>>> I presume hardware can be made available provided someone has the
>>>> interest.
>>> I would love to see someone get it all upstream so we could just
>>> support them in vanilla Fedora. I can send HW but unfortunately I
>>> don't have much time (or ability) to get these bits upstream.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2017 14:45:59 +0200
>>> From: Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_bab at web.de>
>>> To: Samuel Greenfeld <samuel at greenfeld.org>
>>> Cc: OLPC Devel <devel at lists.laptop.org>
>>> Subject: Re: Porting XO laptops to newer Linux kernels
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>>>
>>> Samuel Greenfeld <samuel at greenfeld.org> writes:
>>>
>>>> Are there any low-level kernel developers out there interested in porting
>>>> XO laptops (both x86 & ARM) to a Linux 4.x kernel or a later 3.x kernel
>>>> so
>>>> they can be used with newer Linux distributions?  Or should we presume
>>>> that
>>>> all public XO laptop development (apart from minor patching) is
>>>> officially
>>>> dead at this point?
>>> I am still running an XO-1 with Gentoo (the gentooxo website sadly died,
>>> but I still use what it provided), but I did not get the newer kernels
>>> to run, so I’m currently missing out on many features (including sound).
>>>
>>> I’d be willing to try again if I could prod someones brain when I hit
>>> roadblocks. I’m not experienced in low-level kernel development, but
>>> depending on the problems, perspiration might be able to supplant some
>>> missing experience :-)
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Arne
>>
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