[Sugar-devel] Private vs Public conversations.

Laura Vargas laura at somosazucar.org
Thu Oct 31 23:30:12 EDT 2013

Indeed, deployments (both administrators and users) have much to
contribute to Sugar and the XO's community.

The challenge here was how to get and manage such tremendous amount of

Back in November of 2011, we (the Peruvian Local Lab) made an open
call to the community addressing this and other issues.

We ended up designing and implementing the Sugar Network / Red Azúcar [1].

"El principal objetivo de la Red es proveer un ambiente que permita a
los participantes crear, compartir y mejorar recursos educativos
digitales libres y abiertos. Inicialmente, los recursos podrán ser
Artículos, Archivos, Actividades de Sugar o Artefactos creados desde
las actividades de Sugar."

Today, thanks to the efforts of the Sugar Labs Platform Team and the
generous contributions of some community members, we have Beta OS
images for XO1 and XO1.5 that include access to the Sugar Network.

Of course there is still much to do in order to take this
support-social-content-exchange platform up to its potential, so
please do not hesitate to give us a hand in any way you can.

Best regards,

[1] http://pe.sugarlabs.org/go/Red_Az%C3%BAcar

2013/10/31 Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>:
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Daniel Narvaez <dwnarvaez at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 31 October 2013 19:31, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Sameer Verma <sverma at sfsu.edu> wrote:
>>> > Here's OLPC's mission, as a reminder:
>>> >
>>> > Mission Statement: To create educational opportunities for the world's
>>> > poorest children by providing each child with a rugged, low-cost,
>>> > low-power, connected laptop with content and software designed for
>>> > collaborative, joyful, self-empowered learning.
>>> >
>>> I think we all share concerns about the future of OLPCA (Indeed, I
>>> left OLPC in 2008 to start Sugar Labs in part because of my concerns
>>> about strategy and pedagogy.) That said, I continue to work in support
>>> of OLPC's efforts since I believe that they are still a viable vehicle
>>> to reach millions of children. But Sugar Labs is not OLPC. And Sugar
>>> Labs has a future independent of OLPC. In 2008 we made a decision as a
>>> community to be agnostic about hardware to the extent possible and
>>> that is reflected in our code. In 2010, we made the decision to make
>>> HTML5/Javascript a first-class development environment for Sugar with
>>> the goals of both reaching more kids and attracting more developers.
>>> This is work in progress, but we (Manuq and Daniel) have made great
>>> strides. We face further challenges ahead. But our mission remains:
>>> to produce, distribute, and support the use of the Sugar learning
>>> platform; it is a support base and gathering place for the community
>>> of educators and developers to create, extend, teach, and learn with
>>> the Sugar learning platform.
>> Both being hardware agnostic and OS agnostic make sense at a certain level.
>> But I feel like Sugar Labs needs one or more well defined flagship products
>> to focus on. That gives us something to market, to test, to design for.
>> The only Sugar based product which has really been successful until now is
>> the XO. And that makes us still very dependent on OLPC strategies.
>> Given the uncertainity of the OLPC situation (or rather it seems pretty
>> certain that their investement on Sugar has been heavily scaled down), I
>> think Sugar Labs should try to come up with another flagship product to
>> focus on. Sugar on Raspberry? Sugar as a cross OS application? Sugar on some
>> custom built (by who?) piece of hardware? I don't know but I feel it's
>> something we will need to figure out.
> I think we should be having this discussion with the Sugar
> deployments. They by-and-large remain committed to Sugar even if they
> are uncertain about the base platform.
> -walter
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