[Sugar-devel] Private vs Public conversations.

[Daniel Narvaez]

On 1 November 2013 03:22, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Daniel Narvaez <dwnarvaez at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On 31 October 2013 19:31, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Sameer Verma <sverma at sfsu.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Here's OLPC's mission, as a reminder:
> >> >
> >> > Mission Statement: To create educational opportunities for the world's
> >> > poorest children by providing each child with a rugged, low-cost,
> >> > low-power, connected laptop with content and software designed for
> >> > collaborative, joyful, self-empowered learning.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I think we all share concerns about the future of OLPCA (Indeed, I
> >> left OLPC in 2008 to start Sugar Labs in part because of my concerns
> >> about strategy and pedagogy.) That said, I continue to work in support
> >> of OLPC's efforts since I believe that they are still a viable vehicle
> >> to reach millions of children. But Sugar Labs is not OLPC. And Sugar
> >> Labs has a future independent of OLPC. In 2008 we made a decision as a
> >> community to be agnostic about hardware to the extent possible and
> >> that is reflected in our code. In 2010, we made the decision to make
> >> HTML5/Javascript a first-class development environment for Sugar with
> >> the goals of both reaching more kids and attracting more developers.
> >> This is work in progress, but we (Manuq and Daniel) have made great
> >> strides. We face further challenges ahead. But our mission remains:
> >>
> >> to produce, distribute, and support the use of the Sugar learning
> >> platform; it is a support base and gathering place for the community
> >> of educators and developers to create, extend, teach, and learn with
> >> the Sugar learning platform.
> >
> >
> >
> > Both being hardware agnostic and OS agnostic make sense at a certain
> level.
> > But I feel like Sugar Labs needs one or more well defined flagship
> products
> > to focus on. That gives us something to market, to test, to design for.
> >
> > The only Sugar based product which has really been successful until now
> is
> > the XO. And that makes us still very dependent on OLPC strategies.
> >
> > Given the uncertainity of the OLPC situation (or rather it seems pretty
> > certain that their investement on Sugar has been heavily scaled down), I
> > think Sugar Labs should try to come up with another flagship product to
> > focus on. Sugar on Raspberry? Sugar as a cross OS application? Sugar on
> some
> > custom built (by who?) piece of hardware? I don't know but I feel it's
> > something we will need to figure out.
>
> I think we should be having this discussion with the Sugar
> deployments. They by-and-large remain committed to Sugar even if they
> are uncertain about the base platform.
>

Absolutely!
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