Activity Central's Sugar related priorities.

Samuel Greenfeld greenfeld at
Mon Oct 7 13:24:06 EDT 2013

Disclaimer: These are my personal views, and are not the official views of

   - It should be fine to discuss anything Sugar-related on the development lists.  Sugar Labs does not use any OLPC
   hosting services, and is an independent group as part of the Software
   Freedom Conservancy.

   - I cannot comment on future OLPC hardware plans.  If OLPC was to
   publicly announce their intent to go in a similar direction the mailing lists might be appropriate; however otherwise they
   may not be.

   It sounds like you are discussing a software change for different
   hardware than anything OLPC related though.

   Other vendors besides OLPC have sold laptops with Sugar preinstalled on
   top of Fedora or Ubuntu in the past, so you are not breaking new ground.

   - Updating the Sugar release in Ubuntu sounds like something everyone
   could benefit from, not just Dextrose users.  Is there any reason not to
   base most of this work starting with upstream Sugar & existing Ubuntu

   - In general one of my frustrations lately is that now that we no longer
   publicly review patches on this mailing list, everyone seems to be
   developing their own version of Sugar.

   While some of these changes may make it back upstream it would be nice
   to see EduJAM and OLPC-SF discussion about trying to limit this.

   I know Activity Central is trying to publicly state a bit what they're
   up to, and Walter does his weekly "state of the union" reports.  I also
   personally hear some private updates as well.  But the different working
   styles of the various groups is starting to confuse me as to which way
   Sugar is going as a whole.

On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 12:41 PM, David Farning <dfarning at
> wrote:

> As a data point for other decision makers and a follow up to some of
> the recent threads on the future of Sugar, I would like to share
> Activity Central's Sugar priorities for the next six months.
> Activity Central supports the recent HTML5 + JS work that is going
> into sugar .100. It has the potential to take the OLPC vision to any
> device which runs a browser while simultaneously increasing the
> potential activity developer pool by several orders of magnitude. This
> is an excellent area for community lead research. Activity Central
> will be doing activity side work to test the viability of the
> framework for client deployments.
> As a more incremental approach, Activity Central will continue our
> deployment-centric work by porting Dextrose to Ubuntu. A concern among
> deployments is the future availability of hardware to support their
> current investment. Deployments are concerned that laptop support will
> stop before tablets are ready for use in the field. Because of the
> controversial nature of this work and the potential for disruption it
> may cause to the Association, we understand if some people would
> prefer to sit this out.
> Would either of these list be appropriate to continue these
> discussions about this downstream efforts to port sugar to Ubuntu for
> use on hardware not sold by the Association?
> Phase one has been a poof of concept as seen at
> (ongoing)
> Phase two will be opening the project to the community.
> Phases three will be testing and piloting by deployments.
> --
> David Farning
> Activity Central:
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