[support-gang] [Server-devel] 1TB drive of quality open content on XO/XS--won't boot

[Holt]

Indeed...but this is not an option as the XS=XO+TB needs to auto-boot 
after "daily" power failures in the developing world :)

On 5/13/2013 9:53 AM, Samuel Greenfeld wrote:
> NTFS is supported in OLPC builds, just not by the OS Kernel itself.
>
> The ntfs-3g "filesystem in userspace" package can be used to mount 
> NTFS drives.  So you should be able to use a command like "mount -t 
> ntfs-3g /dev/ntfs_partition /mnt/mountpoint" if Sugar or GNOME do not 
> automatically mount the filesystem for you.
>
> In general many Linux distributions seem to currently consider using 
> ntfs-3g a better approach than using the kernel driver. The in-kernel 
> driver still may not have full NTFS write support, while ntfs-3g does.
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Yioryos Asprobounitis 
> <mavrothal at yahoo.com <mailto:mavrothal at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
>     OLPC kernels do *not* support NTFS (# CONFIG_NTFS_FS is not set).
>     It either should be activated in future builds or use another FS.
>     I believe tha FAT32 (VFAT) can handle big drives and  is universal.
>     However it has a number of other problems that may not suit your
>     needs (reliability, permissions etc)
>
>
>     --- On Mon, 5/13/13, Braddock <braddock at braddock.com
>     <mailto:braddock at braddock.com>> wrote:
>
>     > From: Braddock <braddock at braddock.com
>     <mailto:braddock at braddock.com>>
>     > Subject: Re: [support-gang] [Server-devel] 1TB drive of quality
>     open content on XO/XS--won't boot
>     > To: "James Cameron" <quozl at laptop.org
>     <mailto:quozl at laptop.org>>, "Holt" <holt at laptop.org
>     <mailto:holt at laptop.org>>, "XS Devel"
>     <server-devel at lists.laptop.org
>     <mailto:server-devel at lists.laptop.org>>, "Support Gangsters"
>     <support-gang at laptop.org <mailto:support-gang at laptop.org>>,
>     "Devel's in the Details" <devel at lists.laptop.org
>     <mailto:devel at lists.laptop.org>>
>     > Date: Monday, May 13, 2013, 8:02 AM
>     > Hi James
>     > I'm using OpenFirmware Q7B26  EC Firmware 0.4.03
>     >
>     > I have tried turning the "boot" flag off on the NTFS
>     > partition, but it
>     > still dumps me to the OpenFirmware ok prompt.
>     >
>     > I can reproduce the problem by formatting a USB stick to
>     > NTFS and trying
>     > to boot with it plugged in.
>     >
>     > So it is reacting badly to the mere presence of NTFS on USB
>     > media.
>     >
>     > -braddock
>     >
>     > On 05/12/2013 03:40 PM, James Cameron wrote:
>     > > On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 03:44:18PM -0400, Holt wrote:
>     > >> Is there a way to boot a large USB hard drive
>     > attached to an XO?
>     > >> At our XS Community Sprint this week outside
>     > Toronto, we've been
>     > >> unable to boot XOs with the 700+ GB drive(s)
>     > containing very
>     > >> polished open content provided by http://internet-in-a-box.org
>     > >> The XOs (eg. XO-4 etc) refuse to auto-boot, leaving
>     > the screen at
>     > >> the OK prompt.
>     > >>
>     > >> FYI our 1TB disk is a nearly complete snapshot of:
>     > >> * Wikipedia-in-41-languages, thumbnails for most
>     > all images
>     > >> * OpenStreetMap for the whole world cached at all
>     > zoom levels for
>     > >> fast display
>     > >> * Gutenberg Prjct's full collection of 40,000+
>     > books, images
>     > >> * Khan Academy's ~4000 video classes, etc
>     > >>
>     > >> Does firmware currently block the mounting of all
>     > large USB drives
>     > >> -- NTFS in this case if not other filesystems?
>     > > Open Firmware tries the first partition that is marked
>     > bootable.
>     > >
>     > > Exactly what it does next depends on the firmware
>     > version, but clearly
>     > > in your case it stops booting.
>     > >
>     > >> Might there be a workaround so isolated XO servers
>     > in Haiti (etc!)
>     > >> can hopefully auto-boot with this quality free
>     > content?
>     > > Turn off the bootable flag using a partitioning
>     > program, ensure you
>     > > are using latest firmware Q7B30, and attach a serial
>     > console for
>     > > further debugging.
>     > >
>     > > If you can tell me how to reproduce the symptom, then
>     > I'm quite sure I
>     > > can get it fixed.  I certainly can't afford to
>     > download 700 GB or 1 TB
>     > > to do that though.
>     > >
>     > > I'm happy to work with whoever has the drive and an
>     > XO-4.
>     > >
>     > > The nature and value of the content has no relationship
>     > to the
>     > > diagnosis process, but is interesting regardless.
>     > >
>     >
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