Using ext4 usb drive to go to 13.1.0
James Cameron
quozl at laptop.org
Sun Sep 23 21:41:43 EDT 2012
Oops, have I got my versions mixed? I thought it was 12.1.0 (os12)
that shipped with Q4D17, and 13.1.0 (os2/os3) that currently has
Q4D21.
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 09:37:57PM -0400, Samuel Greenfeld wrote:
> The final version of 13.1.0 (os21) only ships with Q4D17 for XO-1.75 (Q3C07 for
> XO-1.5, Q2F12 on XO-1).
>
> I am aware that at least one USB glitch (#12034 on XO-1.5) is present in the
> final release, but given this seemed non-fatal the release freeze was not
> lifted to take a new firmware build.
>
> If you believe updated firmware builds are required if we release a 13.1.1
> build (and not just 14.1.0) I would recommend filing a ticket.
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 9:28 PM, James Cameron <quozl at laptop.org> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 07:55:28PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 09:28:12 +1000, James Cameron
> > <quozl at laptop.org> wrote:
> > > G'day Bruno,
> > >
> > > Thank you for your problem report. It is interesting.
> >
> > I updated the trac ticket with most of what was requested.
>
> Thanks. I'll use the ticket for summary only.
>
> > > The install method hasn't changed. Our development builds are
> > > installed using fs-update rather than the zsp file and holding
> > > four game keys down. Once 13.1.0 is released, the method will be
> > > the same as before.
> >
> > When going to 12.1.0 I held down the four buttons above the power
> > switch while booting. When going to 13.1.0 I used fs-update. I was
> > going by the instructions on the wiki for doing the updates.
>
> Yes, the instructions are different, but they will be the same as
> before ... once 13.1.0 is released. 13.1.0 is not yet released; you
> were using a development build which requires special use of
> fs-update.
>
> > > When you upgraded your XO-1.75 to 12.1.0 an old version of Open
> > > Firmware might have been present. After the upgrade, the next
> > > time you had two sources of power, Open Firmware would have been
> > > upgraded.
> >
> > I also didn't have two sources of power when I did the fs-update to
> > 13.1.0, so maybe that's why the open firmware is still at Q4D17.
>
> Yes.
>
> There is a separate command to upgrade Open Firmware, but the
> operating system boot does this automatically if two sources of power
> are available ... normally at the first boot after upgrade. With only
> one source of power, it will be delayed until a boot with two sources
> of power.
>
> Holding down the four buttons doesn't upgrade both the operating
> system and the firmware at once, but it does upgrade the operating
> system, and then the operating system upgrades the firmware at the
> first available opportunity.
>
> (In the release notes we ask for two sources of power before using the
> four game keys method.
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/12.1.0#XO-1.75 ... but for
> development builds we expect users may manage their systems
> differently.)
>
> Using fs-update to upgrade the operating system should eventually
> cause the firmware to upgrade. If this isn't happening with two
> sources of power, it is a separate problem we should investigate.
>
> > > a. what version of Open Firmware was on the XO-1.75 before the
> > > upgrade to 12.1.0? I cannot guess what this was.
> >
> > I don't know, but probably whatever you were shipping with the
> > devices a few weeks ago. Mine shipped shortly before 12.1.0 was
> > released.
>
> Thanks. I acknowledge you don't know what version worked with your
> USB drive before the upgrade.
>
> Please provide the serial number, so that I can take a guess at a
> minimum firmware version. Please also use the .mfg-data command at
> the ok prompt and look for the BV tag, which should list the base
> firmware version used. .mfg-data also displays the SN or serial
> number tag.
>
> > > b. what version of Open Firmware was on the XO-1.75 at the time
> > > of the problem in ticket #12123? I expect it was Q4D17 as this
> > > was 12.1.0 build 21 contained.
> >
> > I can reproduce the issue on Q4D17.
>
> Good, thanks.
>
> > > c. what version of Open Firmware is on the XO-1.75 after the
> > > upgrade to 13.1.0? I expect it will be Q4D21.
> >
> > It is still Q4D17.
> >
> > > d. if you downgrade to the version of Open Firmware you had
> > > before the upgrade to 12.1.0, and then try the fs-update for
> > > 13.1.0, does the problem in ticket #12123 occur?
> >
> > I can't refer to u: successfully if I don't plug in the drive after
> > booting.
> >
> > > e. on Q4D21 please attach the USB drive, turn on the laptop, get
> > > to the ok prompt, type p2, and tell me what is printed.
> >
> > I haven't got Q4D21 yet, so I can't do these tests just yet.
> >
> > > f. on Q4D21 please detach the USB drive, turn on the laptop, get
> > > to the ok prompt, type p2, and tell me what is printed.
> > >
> > > g. on Q4D21 please attach the USB drive, turn on the laptop, get
> > > to the ok prompt, type
> >
> > There were differences for the p2 command under Q4D17 depending on
> > whether the drive was plugged in before or after boot.
>
> Your p2 and scan-subtree output shows that the device does not respond
> to probes if it was already plugged in when the laptop powered on.
> This seems like a power on or reset problem for the drive.
>
> Please test if this is a new behaviour of your USB drive, or a new
> behaviour of Open Firmware. Downgrade to Q4D03, or if a later version
> is listed in the BV tag downgrade to that, and test again with the USB
> drive. You can find download links and instructions to downgrade at
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Firmware
>
> Please test if we have already fixed this problem. Upgrade to Q4D21
> and test again with the USB drive.
>
> Please test the other two USB ports on the laptop, in case there is an
> electrical problem with the port you usually use.
>
> > > 2. the drive must spin up and become ready (if it is a mechanical
> > > drive this can take some seconds),
> >
> > In my case it's a flash drive. (I reformtted it to ext4.)
>
> Thanks. I have tested with a USB flash drive and a USB powered desk
> lamp. The power is briefly turned on, then off for a few seconds,
> then on just before the probe.
>
> It seems unlikely, but it is possible, that your USB flash drive does
> not like the brief power pulse.
>
> Please test with a powered hub. Connect the hub to the laptop.
> Connect power to the hub. Connect the flash drive to the hub. Power
> up the laptop. Use p2 command.
>
> The filesystem format of the USB flash drive should have no bearing on
> the success or failure of a USB probe. But thanks for letting me know.
>
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