gathering use cases
jvonau at shaw.ca
Thu Nov 8 17:25:45 EST 2012
On Thu, 2012-11-08 at 17:10 -0500, Tony Anderson wrote:
> On 11/08/2012 05:01 PM, Jerry Vonau wrote:
> > Hi Tony and all,
> > On Thu, 2012-11-08 at 13:32 -0500, Tony Anderson wrote:
> >> Hi, Sridhar
> >> One of the important potential benefits from gathering use cases is to
> >> clarify the roles of the Community XS project and XS-0.7.
> > Why is that an issue at at all? The "Community XS" (think XS-0.8 here)
> > is going to address the current shortcomings of XS-0.7.
> This is my greatest concern. The ability of a server to deliver content
> is central. It is my understanding that your Community XS does not
> support a LAMP stack or Moodle. Please do not refer to the Community XS
> as XO-0.8 until there is a chance that it can deliver the essential
> capabilities of XS-0.7. My other concern is that a lot of very talented
> people are spending a lot of time solving a non-problem.
That's very interesting LAMP is installed and George tells me Moodle is
now working. We just didn't quite have the time prior to SF to debug the
issue and I confident that the work done will become 0.8.
> Naturally, the network problem you mention is solved by connecting the
> XS-0.7 to that network as the WAN.
How do you deal with the name resolution of 'schoolserver' without
having the ability to alter the network dns server's entries or have the
server called something other than 'schoolserver' to avoid a clash with
an pre-existing server on the target network?
> >> From my perspective, if you can afford to deploy a server with 2GB or
> >> more main memory and 500GB or more hard drive capacity, XS-0.7 serves
> >> well and easily supports adding or customizing services. The
> >> configuration shown in SF costs less than $350 and draws 18w (based on
> >> measurements taken by George Hunt). With a large hard drive, it is
> >> perfectly to keep Moodle even if it is not used.
> >> In my experience, the school server is installed in the school ready
> >> with XS-07 installed along with the available content. Barring hardware
> >> failure, the only interaction at the school is to turn the server on at
> >> the start of day and turn it off at the end. With modern computers, both
> >> functions require only a push on the power button.
> > I'm not thinking about an XO here at all but on a server that you
> > spec'd. Tell me how do you deploy the 0.7 version on a network where you
> > don't have control over the DNS and have everything work? I have an idea
> > on how to pull that off with avahi, I would like to hear about how you
> > would implement that situation.
> >> Community XS serves a valuable role where only XOs are available or
> >> where power constraints are critical. It may also have a role in
> >> supporting special network requirements.
> > Not to mention better hardware support for the latest hardware available
> > and ARM support by using Fedora. You can get on board with the future
> > and have a say in your pet interests but please don't get in the way of
> > progress.
> > Jerry
> > The other XS-CE developer
> >> Tony
> >> On 11/08/2012 10:55 AM, devel-request at lists.laptop.org wrote:
> >>> Message: 2
> >>> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 13:57:12 +1100
> >>> From: Sridhar Dhanapalan<sridhar at laptop.org.au>
> >>> To: Holt<holt at laptop.org>
> >>> Cc: Devel's in the Details<devel at lists.laptop.org>, Maryam Rehan El
> >>> Baz<melbaz at mail.sfsu.edu>, iaep<iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org>, XS Devel
> >>> <server-devel at lists.laptop.org>, Support Gangsters
> >>> <support-gang at laptop.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: gathering use cases
> >>> Message-ID:
> >>> <CABPDnXn8Xz9BwRD_zy_PUr43CG=_rKXv8u6=zLjD0f+Juk=XEQ at mail.gmail.com>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >>> On 3 November 2012 07:46, Holt<holt at laptop.org> wrote:
> >>>>> Thanks much Sameer. Am includingsupport-gang at laptop.org to make sure we
> >>>>> gather microdeployment and support volunteer feedback too.
> >>>>> While our XS Community Edition experiment ain't quite ready for
> >>>>> showtime/download yet, its white paper & code repository are here:
> >>>>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Holt/XS_Community_Edition
> >>> The white paper that Adam is referring to can be found at
> >>> https://docs.google.com/a/dhanapalan.com/document/pub?id=1dnhU2F6EntepVXTgN8QpkME8fZVUuPjcCoMUfAVKbcc
> >>> I am the primary author, but it was written by canvassing feedback and
> >>> opinions from schools and XS community members (including Jerry Vonau,
> >>> George Hunt, Adam Holt and many others). The paper discusses several
> >>> use cases and design goals, and outlines the underlying principles
> >>> behind how we do things in OLPC Australia.
> >>> There is some miscommunication being spread around that I'd like to
> >>> clear up. Firstly, this is not a 'secret' project. The white paper
> >>> explains our mission, and the code repo and issues trackers are open.
> >>> Secondly, the intent is to create a flexible framework that can be
> >>> adapted to suit local needs. This is*not*, as some keep asserting, a
> >>> project to have the XS work only on the XO. The community XS will work
> >>> on any x86 or ARM based hardware that works with Fedora. The white
> >>> paper explains this in depth.
> >>> Sridhar
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