Flash + AIR on OLPC

Stanley Sokolow overbyte at earthlink.net
Mon Apr 12 13:03:15 EDT 2010

You can see the Xubuntu system running on our XO-1 at:  Internet Math
Tutoring / OLPC Project

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Stanley Sokolow <overbyte at earthlink.net>wrote:

> Sorry, guys, but I just don't see why the content is somehow corrupted or
> limited by deployment on the Flash platform.    The FlashPlayer implements a
> virtual machine that is customized by Adobe to run on various hardware and
> OSs.   They're extending it now to ARM-processor-based devices (cell
> phones).   The concept is write-once-run-everywhere.  The FlashPlayer runs
> inside browsers or stand-alone (AIR).  The programming language it supports
> (ActionScript) is now a very capable language, has libraries (both free and
> not-free) for lots of goodies including very rich graphical interfaces, has
> a powerful declarative xml-based language (Flex MXML) for building the
> interfaces and binding data to them, has an open-source free-to-use (from
> Adobe) compiler, has a free-open-source IDE (FlashDevelop) from a community,
> has a superb IDE from Adobe that only costs $249 for the standard version
> which includes a visual drag-and-drop design view mode as well as text mode
> of programming and lots of features lacking in the FOSS FlashDevelop, etc.
> One can program and run Flash programs with free-to-use software.   I know
> of a very capable interactive web site (www.vyew.com, try the demo and
> see) that runs extremely nicely and was built with the open source IDE.
> Vyew.com runs on my XO, but I had to install the "Teapot" distribution of
> Xubuntu on an SD card and run Firefox with FlashPlayer plugin.    It runs an
> interactive whiteboard plus 2-way video and audio on my little XO-1, and it
> supports plug-in extensions that users can build.  If the Vyew developers
> can do this with free tools, why can't the OLPC community use Flash as a
> platform?
> So, please explain why "constructionist" educational models can't be
> programmed and run on the Flash platform just as well or better than in
> Python on Sugar on Fedora.
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 8:31 AM, James Zaki <james.zaki at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm guilty of spending more time than I probably should at newgrounds.com,
>> their slogan being "Everything, by Everyone".
>> Its a melting pot of free content, and what really impresses me are the
>> absolute gems of creativity that one finds from time to time.
>> I dont see flash as the main XO education content maker, but can see the
>> argument for popularity in the short term.
>> James.
>> 2010/4/12 John Watlington <wad at laptop.org>
>>> On Apr 11, 2010, at 8:56 PM, James Cameron wrote:
>>> > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 08:51:01PM -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote:
>>> >> But hey. Flash developers want Flash in it. It's gotta be good for
>>> >> something.
>>> >
>>> > My guess is that it is handy for repurposing the system for
>>> > entertainment usage.  (I don't have Flash enabled on my systems, so I
>>> > don't really know what I'm missing).
>>> It's all the rage for games these days.   My kids constantly astound
>>> me with the rendering quality and interactiveness of flash games that
>>> they are able to find for free on the web.
>>> Deployments that have asked for Flash also point to games as the reason.
>>> wad
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