You can see the Xubuntu system running on our XO-1 at: <a href="http://internetmathtutoring.com/olpc/static.php?page=static090711-100100">Internet Math Tutoring / OLPC Project </a>.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Stanley Sokolow <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:overbyte@earthlink.net">overbyte@earthlink.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Sorry, guys, but I just don't see why the content is somehow corrupted or limited by deployment on the Flash platform. The FlashPlayer implements a virtual machine that is customized by Adobe to run on various hardware and OSs. They're extending it now to ARM-processor-based devices (cell phones). The concept is write-once-run-everywhere. The FlashPlayer runs inside browsers or stand-alone (AIR). The programming language it supports (ActionScript) is now a very capable language, has libraries (both free and not-free) for lots of goodies including very rich graphical interfaces, has a powerful declarative xml-based language (Flex MXML) for building the interfaces and binding data to them, has an open-source free-to-use (from Adobe) compiler, has a free-open-source IDE (FlashDevelop) from a community, has a superb IDE from Adobe that only costs $249 for the standard version which includes a visual drag-and-drop design view mode as well as text mode of programming and lots of features lacking in the FOSS FlashDevelop, etc.<br>
<br>One can program and run Flash programs with free-to-use software. I know of a very capable interactive web site (<a href="http://www.vyew.com" target="_blank">www.vyew.com</a>, try the demo and see) that runs extremely nicely and was built with the open source IDE. Vyew.com runs on my XO, but I had to install the "Teapot" distribution of Xubuntu on an SD card and run Firefox with FlashPlayer plugin. It runs an interactive whiteboard plus 2-way video and audio on my little XO-1, and it supports plug-in extensions that users can build. If the Vyew developers can do this with free tools, why can't the OLPC community use Flash as a platform?<br>
<br>So, please explain why "constructionist" educational models can't be programmed and run on the Flash platform just as well or better than in Python on Sugar on Fedora.<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
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On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 8:31 AM, James Zaki <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:james.zaki@gmail.com" target="_blank">james.zaki@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
I'm guilty of spending more time than I probably should at <a href="http://newgrounds.com" target="_blank">newgrounds.com</a>, their slogan being "Everything, by Everyone".<br>Its a melting pot of free content, and what really impresses me are the absolute gems of creativity that one finds from time to time.<br>
<br>I dont see flash as the main XO education content maker, but can see the argument for popularity in the short term.<br><br>James.<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/4/12 John Watlington <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wad@laptop.org" target="_blank">wad@laptop.org</a>></span><div>
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On Apr 11, 2010, at 8:56 PM, James Cameron wrote:<br>
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> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 08:51:01PM -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote:<br>
>> But hey. Flash developers want Flash in it. It's gotta be good for<br>
>> something.<br>
><br>
> My guess is that it is handy for repurposing the system for<br>
> entertainment usage. (I don't have Flash enabled on my systems, so I<br>
> don't really know what I'm missing).<br>
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</div>It's all the rage for games these days. My kids constantly astound<br>
me with the rendering quality and interactiveness of flash games that<br>
they are able to find for free on the web.<br>
<br>
Deployments that have asked for Flash also point to games as the reason.<br>
<br>
wad<br>
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