Android, OLPC, and native hosting

John Watlington wad at
Mon Dec 28 14:50:08 EST 2009

On Dec 28, 2009, at 1:53 PM, Paul Fox wrote:

> martin wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 7:25 PM, C. Scott Ananian  
>> <cscott at> wrote:
>>> j/k. ;-)
>> emacs is what I am using on both XO-1 and XO-1.5 so pretty good going
>> ;-) (Along with vim! Peace!)
>> Lots of people here want to claim we need Eclipse to have an  
>> "IDE". Of
>> all the developers involved in the whole Linux
>> kernel+Fedora+Sugar+OLPC custom bits, the incidence of Eclipse usage
>> is  vanishingly small.
>> You don't need Eclipse to create this software stack, and it is
>> clearly not particularly desirable or ideal for most of the  
>> developers
>> that actually built it.
> sure.  but it's not the current developers that are at issue --  
> they're
> almost by definition happy with the tools at hand.  (did i really
> just say that?  where's my 3D data structure visualizer when i
> need it??)  it's the ability of kids to explore and learn about
> programming that we're talking about.  never having used
> eclipse, i can't say its suitable.  but it has to be more
> discoverable than vi, id-utils, and gdb.

Exactly why I wanted to see if it could be installed and used.

Emacs forever ! (although it has gotten huge....)

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