"Yay!, Bee, See" (ABC) software

Tue Nov 25 00:08:38 EST 2008

Yes, that's a fine baseline.   As you point out, I had a hard time
with the license field; enter what you like but please do include a
full LICENSE file in the bundle that provides specific licenses (and
attribution where required), image by image.

If you download an xol file onto your xo from a webserver that has
mimetypes set properly (such as w.l.o) it should automatically install
itself into your Library/ directory.

I don't know about that page not rendering properly on an XO; what
version of Browse are you running?

SJ

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:55 PM, Ben Wiley Sittler <bsittler at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks!
>
> A few questions, though:
>
> 1. Is there any reason I shouldn't start with your version 2 .xol as
> my baseline? I'd like to update it to use the new lower-resolution,
> lower-quality images (which still look just fine on the XO-1 even in
> greyscale high-resolution mode zoomed out to the 1px = 1px scale.)
>
> 2. Is there some way to install the .xol more user-friendly than just
> unzipping it into the ~/Library directory?
>
> 3. I notice that in the description on the wiki for the bundle you
> wrote "fdl text, pd, cc-by and cc-sa images". Some of the images are
> cc-by-sa and fdl, too. Also, the HTML text is actually pd (or at least
> it was in the version I released — of course you are welcome to
> license copyrighted derivative versions however you like.)
>
> 4. And finally, is there some reason the OLPC wiki does not work right
> when viewed from an XO-1? I had to go through URL-hacking contortions
> to open that page in Browse (it just said the page was empty
> otherwise.)
>
> Thanks, (and please pardon my ignorance!)
> -Ben
>
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Samuel Klein <meta.sj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>  Ben --
>>
>> When you're zipping up the directory, if you add a metadata file in
>> this subpath:
>>  library/library.info
>>
>> and give the resulting zip file the extension .xol, you'll have an XO
>> library bundle.
>>
>> Here is a sample info file, with all required fields :
>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Yay-bee-see-library.info
>> Note that the 'name' field in the info file should match the name of
>> the root directory.
>>
>> Our standard is to increment the version # in the metadata every time
>> you make a change; that allows tools like Sugar's software updater
>> know when there are newer versions of packages available to install.
>>
>> SJ
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Ben Wiley Sittler <bsittler at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> yeah, i added a 1200x900 version with more agressive JPEG compression
>>> which looks good both in color mode and in monochrome mode and is only
>>> 4 MiB or so:
>>>
>>> http://xent.com/~bsittler/yay-bee-see-olpc.zip
>>>
>>> hosted version:
>>>
>>> http://xent.com/~bsittler/yay-bee-see-olpc/index.html
>>>
>>> does that seem any faster?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Gary C Martin <gary at garycmartin.com> wrote:
>>>> On 24 Nov 2008, at 17:21, Ben Wiley Sittler wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have just joined this list and read through the archives, but could
>>>>> not find anything similar. I also didn't find mention of anything
>>>>> similar on the OLPC Wiki.
>>>>>
>>>>> I recently wrote some software for use by my daughter on her OLPC. It
>>>>> runs inside the Browse activity, either locally using a "file:" URI or
>>>>> over the network. I don't know whether it will be of interest to
>>>>> anyone else, but I have released the software to the public domain and
>>>>> packaged it along with scaled-down (1600x1200 or less) copies of some
>>>>> public-domain images and some copyrighted-but-free-to-redistribute
>>>>> images under GFDL, and various Creative Commons Attribution-Share
>>>>> Alike, Attribution, and Share Alike licenses. Individual attribution
>>>>> for each image is included in the application source code.
>>>>
>>>> Seems a great addition for the younger age range :-)
>>>>
>>>> I did notice that even on a high specced laptop (1.5Ghz, 2Gb ram, broadband
>>>> connection) the background image was very slow to display (until it had been
>>>> cached locally).
>>>>
>>>> One suggestion, 1600x1200 seems a bit large (even as a max size). For the
>>>> XO, 800x600 (max!) would seem to be a fair max image size to save nand space
>>>> and keep image quality. The XO screen is capable of 1200x900 in black/white,
>>>> and 800x600 seems a reasonable number for it's colour resolution abilities:
>>>>
>>>>        http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Display
>>>>
>>>> --Gary
>>>>
>>>>> overview:
>>>>>
>>>>> I wrote some software using DHTML (JavaScript, HTML and CSS.) It's to
>>>>> help learn letters and numbers, and is intended to be used with adult
>>>>> supervision and involvement. It is fairly easy to customize it to use
>>>>> different images and support different alphabets simply by editing the
>>>>> contents of the <style> element in the HTML file.
>>>>>
>>>>> The software is very, very, very simple — it just echoes typed letters
>>>>> and numbers in a large, colorful font and shows a somewhat-relevant
>>>>> background image for each one. The images are various freely-usable
>>>>> ones I found on Wikipedia or in the Wikimedia Commons. View source
>>>>> code for full copyright information for the associated images.
>>>>>
>>>>> online version of the "Yay!, Bee, See" application:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://xent.com/~bsittler/yay-bee-see.html
>>>>>
>>>>> an archive of the application (ZIP, ~15 MiB) including all images:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://xent.com/~bsittler/yay-bee-see.zip
>>>>>
>>>>> blog post about it:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://bsittler.livejournal.com/15244.html
>>>>>
>>>>> background:
>>>>>
>>>>> My daughter (who turns two this week) has been enjoying her OLPC from
>>>>> last year's G1G1 program much more than I expected she would
>>>>> (originally I intended to wait until she was older and literate to
>>>>> introduce her to the OLPC, but she seemed to treat it as a favorite
>>>>> toy starting around the age of 18 months.) She likes the Record
>>>>> activity (she calls it "Waving hand" and uses it like a mirror-image
>>>>> mirror,) Skype (not bundled, but she uses it to talk to and see
>>>>> far-away family,) and listening to music (theclassicalstation.org).
>>>>> She also likes pressing buttons, rotating the "ears" and screen, and
>>>>> opening and closing the laptop. However, she seems somewhat frustrated
>>>>> by not being able to do things on it for herself (or as she puts it,
>>>>> "do it self!",) so I thought I might write a small program where her
>>>>> keypresses give some feedback, and help reinforce her interest in the
>>>>> digits and letters of the alphabet (she loves being read to and
>>>>> recognizes many letters and digits, but does not seem to understand
>>>>> reading yet.)
>>>>>
>>>>> -Ben
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