Olpc3 vs Joyride

[Victor Lazzarini]

While I would have no problem doing this, it is just worth noting that
Csound for olpc (aka olpcsound) is built with different scons options, so
making a spec for csound and olpcsound might be tricky. Yes it is
a subset, but a special subset. In addition, I am not the maintainer
of the csound packages in fedora.  There are a number of issues
that require attention in order to create an updated csound package
(eg. 64bit systems built etc), which are not related to OLPC. Since
my time is limited, resolving these would mean the olpc csound
package would be delayed. My priority being getting the subset
ready meant not diverging to maintain csound on Fedora, which
of course can happen in the future.

Also, I needed to be sponsored and so I wanted to keep things
simple and tidy. I did not know there were people willing to take
on the maintenance of csound for Fedora. If I knew I would probably
not have troubled myself.

I find it amazing that instead of offering support, people
tend to criticize you for taking a thankless task onboard.
I wish instead of just talking, they went out there and did the job;
I am happy to pass on the maintenance of olpcsound, csound-olpc
or whatever name you find more appropriate, to whoever
is not happy and thinks he/she can make a better job of
it.

Victor

At 16:05 30/06/2008, Jim Gettys wrote:
>I think Victor would be very happy to have a single spec file that
>covers both the subset and full csound builds....
>                           - Jim
>
>
>On Mon, 2008-06-30 at 09:53 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> > On Monday 30 June 2008, Jim Gettys wrote:
> > > Dennis:
> > >
> > > OLPC csound is an *exact* formal *subset* of full csound-5 built from
> > > the same sources as csound-5.
> > >
> > > It gets rid of tk/tcl dependency we don't want to carry in csound....
> > >                           - Jim
> > There are much better ways to achieve that goal.  than what was 
> done.  but its
> > too late now.   I'm working on defining some macros in totem 
> right now so we
> > can always take the latest fedora spec, change some 0's to 
> 1's  and build a
> > much more minimalistic totem that's suitable for us.  What is done is done
> > now.
> >
> > > On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 17:25 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> > > > On Sunday 29 June 2008, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> > > > > Am 30.06.2008 um 00:05 schrieb Dennis Gilmore:
> > > > > > On Sunday 29 June 2008, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> > > > > >> I reanimated my script that shows differences between the latest
> > > > > >> joyride and candidate builds:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> http://dev.laptop.org/~bert/olpc3-joyride.html
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> ... and in particular added a section to easily see what packages
> > > > > >> are in olpc3 and not in joyride, and vice versa.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> There are not only differences in package versions, but also in
> > > > > >> which packages are in. I wondered, for example, why csound is
> > > > > >> missing from joyride ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > a second copy of csound landed in fedora as olpcsound.  it is built
> > > > > > specifically for olpc  and is in joyride.
> > > > >
> > > > > If it was named csound-olpc that would have been more obvious ...
> > > > >
> > > > > - Bert -
> > > >
> > > > Yes,  first i heard of it was when i was asked to switch out csound and
> > > > csound- python for olpcsound.   Had i been asked before hand 
> i could have
> > > > suggested a way that the csound spec could have produced  csound
> > > > csound-python and csound- olpc.  but what is done is done.  I 
> personally
> > > > don't like anything being called olpc-foo,  I think we should 
> write code
> > > > that is useful outside of OLPC, useful to the whole 
> world.  In which case
> > > >  the naming is really a poor choice.
> > > >
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Victor Lazzarini
Music Technology Laboratory
Music Department
National University of Ireland, Maynooth