Build streams; preparing for 8.2 release.

[Dennis Gilmore]

On Thursday 12 June 2008, Chris Ball wrote:
> Hi Dennis,
>
>    > As i have said previously and repeatedly been ignored (like most of
>    > what i say).  this process will not work.  period.  It cant be made
>    > to work in the same fashion as Debian because its not Debian.
>    > everyone needs to quit trying to fit square pegs into round holes.
>    >
>    > things more than likely will never be able to move from testing
>    > into stable in the proposed format.  why?  because Testing is based
>    > on F-9 and uses the F-9 toolchain and dependencies.  and stable is
>    > based on F-7 which uses completely different toolchain and
>    > dependencies.  We need finer grained control over things.
>
> I think you need to read the proposal again.  Unstable and Testing would
> immediately be based on F9, and there is no "stable" other than released
> builds -- stable is what happens to testing when it's done, so there's
> no mix of F9 and F7 here.  An F9 testing build becomes an F9 stable
> release with its own release name, such as 8.1.1.

from your initial email:
 Stable: Stable builds are specified by their release name (e.g. 8.1.1,
  8.2), and the procedure for packages moving from Testing into Stable
  releases involves the Unscheduled Release Process:
    http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Unscheduled_software_release_process

that indicate you intend to move updates from a F-9 base to a F-7 base.   I 
dont know how else to read it.  if im wrong please tell me how i should 
interpret it.

>    > Throw away what you know about debian's process.  right now it
>    > counts for squat.
>
> I don't know what you mean by this.  All we're doing is defining three
> build names, and (our own) processes for moving packages between them.

We constantly seem to be having the debian does it this way  so lets do it 
that way discussion. rather  than  asking how fedora does it.  If we find the 
fedora way to be lacking then we should work to improve that.  if it means 
looking at how Debian does it and saying thats much better  then so be it.  
but lets not make it the first choice.  We should work to improve the fedora 
process for all of fedora's users derivatives. 

Dennis

P.S.  please reply to list and not CC me on mail to lists i'm known to be 
subscribed to. 

/me would like to see us doing a better job of not cross posting email and  
not replying to all but just to list. 
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