Salut/avahi/meshview issues

[Ivan Krstić]

On Jan 30, 2008, at 5:12 PM, Michail Bletsas wrote:
> For completely serverless environments, what we have is invaluable.  
> The
> fact that it doesn't scale to large numbers of nodes doesn't make it
> useless.

I'm similarly confused about people's insistence on a rigid dichotomy  
between the approaches. I never regarded our mesh work to be aimed at  
replacing proper infrastructure -- its goal was to provide a viable  
(if degraded) transport when proper infrastructure was prohibitively  
expensive or otherwise not an option. We always knew that this  
approach carried scaling limits, and that's _fine_. As Michail says,  
this by no means makes the system useless.

> We have serious problems making Avahi and even the Jabber server do  
> their
> thing with small numbers of nodes

These two are very different. Avahi is hitting design and network  
limits. With Jabber, the problem is our ugly shared roster hack which  
makes the system do something it's not designed to; this is not an  
issue intrinsic to Jabber.

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