libglade?

Jameson "Chema" Quinn jquinn at cs.oberlin.edu
Mon Jan 14 18:43:53 EST 2008


Thanks for the reality check. But:


> I don't see any reason to include Glade, unless you also intend to include
> complete a complementary graphical interface builder tuned for Activities.
>  That
> would be a multi-year project.
>

I disagree, it's just a matter of making a widget catalog.

The reason I ask now, at the start, is that if eventually I plan to do this
- and there ARE real advantages, for instance it makes it much easier to
make an app which works on Sugar and other platforms - I want to do Develop
itself with libglade. I do not plan to spend any time making the GUI editor
until I have a usable release.


> I feel strongly that you are making Develop too ambitious.  A simple
> Python
> editor that supports collaboration and editing copies of installed
> activities
> would be groundbreaking, and cause for celebration.  It would be the most
> revered Activity of all.


Version control is at the heart of real collaboration. How many real-world
programs are done with pair programming? How many of them use version
control?

But actually, both of these are gravy. I want to first make something with
neither. But I'd rather know what I'm working towards before I start.

As for "copies of installed activities", you're right. I was wasting time
worrying about copy-on-write hard links, I should just copy for now and get
to that later. Still, for all my talk, I was not coding any Bazaar in, just
copy-on-write.

As for translatable code, sorry, that's the horse I rode in on. It's the
reason I first looked at the wiki and learned about the project beyond the
headlines. It's not in step one, but personally speaking its what I want to
contribute, and what I'll be working on as soon as step 1's done.

Jameson

ps. I'd feel better about how source control 'might be solved by the
journal' if I had more of a sense of the plans and priorities there. Even
the most basic possible Develop is going to be pushing the envelope (and
helping fine-tune the spec) with both Bitfrost and the Journal. Yet the only
coherent docs for either are way out of date, and though both are heavy with
promise, even the present reality is underdocumented, let alone the future
plans. If there are any secret archives on these, it would be great to know.
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