Sugar & XFCE

[pgf at laptop.org]

sebastian wrote:
 > Or you can just yum install xfce* and work your way to nirvana from there.
 > 
 > Sebastian

indeed.  this is how i run my G1G1.  A simple "Do you want to run
sugar?" dialog that runs from .xsession determines which manager
i run.  what i've never done is make XFCE "nice" -- and it's kind
of clunky feeling right out of the box.

paul

 > 
 > 
 > david at lang.hm wrote:
 > > On Fri, 5 Dec 2008, Sebastian Silva wrote:
 > >
 > >> Here's a delicate scenario that I see:
 > >> Inevitably, when comparing the XOs running Sugar to those running
 > >> Windows for evaluation (this is happening *right now*) - MMSs (that
 > >> is, Microsoft&Ministries) will argue not only on GNU+Linux vs. Windows
 > >> technical merits, but also the GUI will come up as a possible fatal
 > >> comparison.
 > >> So techies will then install XFCE for comparison, perhaps they'll
 > >> request F10 for that...
 > >> Only XFCE is currently vanilla on the repositories and fancy
 > >> integration like volume and brightness, DPI, etc isnt well integrated
 > >> at all by default, as well as many useful separate widgets for
 > >> networking, battery status and so on.
 > >> Its funny: In this scenario, you can actually share more on windows
 > >> (via file sharing) than on linux (at least with the gui).
 > >> So here's an idea Homunq gave us yesterday:
 > >> This is the perfect project for a G1G1 hacker. Probably one already
 > >> did it. Lets challenge them, via OLPCNews, to release "pimp up xfce on
 > >> F9" procedures (maybe even scripts and themepacks) - so that it is as
 > >> simple and as trouble free to install a working, beautiful, lean and
 > >> mean XFCE4 on the NAND that we can proudly compare with sluggish
 > >> windows on the SD.
 > >> Please could we request this to wayan and spread it?
 > >
 > > the biggest problem has been in getting started (getting a system 
 > > image that could boot and use the normal distro tools)
 > >
 > > debxo is a good example of a bootstrap for debian, it is a set of 
 > > scripts that use the standard distro package tools to create a system 
 > > image that they can boot into and start tweaking. what it's missing is 
 > > a good way to let the users extract the results of their tweaks to 
 > > submit upstream.
 > >
 > > if you want the type of work you are looking for to happen on Fedora 
 > > someone needs to package up a similar set of scripts.
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >> 2008/12/5 Mikus Grinbergs <mikus at bga.com>:
 > >>> Carlos wrote (regarding Sugar on an XO):
 > >>>>
 > >>>> Apps need to be sugarized.
 > >>>
 > >>> This is true when Sugar is the primary interface of the target user
 > >>> population.  But the "Subject" of this topic is XFCE.  I am going to
 > >>> make the assumption that an user sophisticated enough to use XFCE
 > >>> will be sophisticated enough not to need the simplified GUI that
 > >>> sugarization provides.
 > >>>
 > >>> I myself have had reasonable success installing Linux applications
 > >>> on my XO, then launching them from the command line.  [And launching
 > >>> from Terminal bypasses Rainbow's restrictions on applications.]
 > >>>
 > >>> I keep wondering, considering Moore's Law and the availability of
 > >>> netbooks, why shoehorn specifically Sugar (and the XO) into
 > >>> competing for the "traditional_Linux_interface" laptop role ?
 > >>>
 > >>> mikus
 > >>>
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