15 computer science collegians looking for a project
Edward Cherlin
echerlin at gmail.com
Tue Apr 29 09:20:00 EDT 2008
2008/4/29 NoiseEHC <NoiseEHC at freemail.hu>:
> Okay, it seems that I extrapolated my attempt to the current situation.
> ~9 months ago I have applied for a physical machine (or for a login to a
> physical machine) since the databook missed a lot of information
> regarding assembly instruction scheduling on the Geode. I was told to
> look up the information in the databook...
I wonder whether that is one of the reference manuals that I worked on
at National Semiconductor in 2000, before they sold the Geode line to
AMD. I mostly remember long tables of register bit functions and the
occasional timing diagram. Naturally, they never let me near a chip.
It was much more fun at KLA-Tencor, where I got to sit at the 3D laser
microscope in the clean room for hours on end making notes and screen
captures for every possible mouse click and data-entry field, and
showing the effects on images of ICs.
> (Hmmmm) After that I got a
> promise that there will be machines put to the net so programmers could
> login into them. Then I have got no reply if this happened or not. I
> have decided that I will not beg for a fscking machine.
> Now that I know it, will request one again when I will have some spare
> time to work on it.
> Thanks for the information!
>
> ps:
> BTW I have run through email several tests and later a brave man set up
> a machine for me for a week. What I have learned is that the databook
> not only is missing a lot of information but misleading and sometimes
> plainly wrong. So the measurements I have started will never be finished.
Well, then we need to document it correctly for ourselves.
I'm trying to convince management to hire a doc lead (and interview me
for the job), as they started out to do last year. Somebody seems to
have decided that they didn't need tech writers. Bah! I suppose they
think The engineers can do it, or Our product is so good it doesn't
need manuals. As if! See Biggest Lies Tech Writers Hear by John David
Hickey, http://www.writewaydesigns.com/ohsusana/MORELinks.htm, well
down the page.
The hard part of this task seems to be finding out who can make such a decision.
> Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> > I've been told that machines will be sent to the people that provide a
> > convincing description of what they want to work on.
> >
> > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developer_program#How_to_apply_for_an_XO
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tomeu
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I was perhaps under the mistaken impression that OLPC was dumping
> >> machines to developers like candy again after a hiatus due to a
> >> logistical snafu. Hmm.
> >>
> >> -walter
> >>
> >> 2008/4/29 NoiseEHC <NoiseEHC at freemail.hu>:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Actually it is a funny proposal since without real XO machines it is a
> >>>
> >> > little bit hard to profile programs and since it seems that it is quite
> >> > impossible nowadays to get a machine, they are out of luck. Exactly why
> >> > does not OLPC just dump machines to developers like candy? Even if only
> >> > 1% of people do something about performance, it could be more cost
> >> > effective than hiring 1 man for it (and the XO badly needs this work).
> >> >
> >> > BTW if you referring to this
> >> > http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-March/012033.html
> >> > or this
> >> > http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/sugar/2006-September/000439.html
> >> > then these are not easy and fast things either.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Walter Bender wrote:
> >> > > Any interest in the themes/topics Tomeu outlined in his email about
> >> > > Sugar performance? Lots of interesting things to explore that would be
> >> > > of real value to the project.
> >> > >
> >> > > -walter
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Patrick Jahenr
> >> > > <patrick.jahner at stud.fh-swf.de> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Hi there,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> We are a group of 15 collegians, studying 'Applied Computer Science'
> >> > >> at the University of Applied Sciences in Iserlohn (Germany) and we
> >> > >> are looking for a project for the OLPC within the scope of our subject
> >> > >> "Computer-Networks". Our professor (Prof. Martin Hühne) let us choose
> >> > >> our own topic, leading us directly to our first problem: What can
> >> > >> we do?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> We have to find a project fitting to this demand. We read the wiki
> >> > >> and realised, that most of our ideas we thought we could implement
> >> > >> are either finished software projects or simply not good enough to
> >> > >> keep on thinking about them, because they do not fit to the OLPC-
> >> > >> ideas. The wiki pages for Project ideas are nice, but you do not
> >> > >> know exactly whether there is already someone working on one of the
> >> > >> projects, or not. The Pages for Current Projects are quite nice too,
> >> > >> but there you do not know if the people working on it actually do
> >> > >> need help.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> That is why we post this little request to the readers of this mailing
> >> > >> list.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> We are looking for either a project we can take part on, or a not-
> >> > >> yet-implemented idea. It should not bee too big for us in order to
> >> > >> be finished within time; it should not be too small to have something
> >> > >> to do for 15 students. (Anyway, don't forget we need to sleep)
> >> > >> It would be nice, but not all necessary if the project could involve
> >> > >> some of the networking technologies of the XO, I mean, the subject
> >> > >> is "Computer-Networks"
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Furthermore, there is a time limit: We will have to end the project
> >> > >> until end of June, whereas there will be the same subject for another
> >> > >> group of students after our free period, which will have the same,
> >> > >> or a similar task. Probably, they will go on, on our project, if
> >> > >> its not finished.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Our Knowledge Base:
> >> > >> We have good basic knowledge in C/C++, Java, some basic knowledge
> >> > >> in scripting languages (Perl, PHP and bash) and some of us have good
> >> > >> knowledge of Linux. A further subject called "Software-Engineering"
> >> > >> came along with us for one and a half year.
> >> > >> We started reading and working in Python and GTK, and saw, we can
> >> > >> cope that.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> We are open for all your suggestions, you can email me directly if
> >> > >> you have a project we can take part on, but you could also just answer
> >> > >> here, if you have a good idea which of the project ideas we could
> >> > >> implement.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Thank you in advance,
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Patrick
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> P.S. Please forgive me my English skills
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
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