What about Sugar? (Was: Mtg with Nicholas at 3pm on Thursday)

Sameer Verma sverma at sfsu.edu
Sat Apr 19 13:10:31 EDT 2008


John Watlington wrote:
> On Apr 18, 2008, at 2:27 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>
>   
>> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 5:48 PM, John Watlington <wad at laptop.org>  
>> wrote:
>>     
>>>  On Apr 18, 2008, at 6:24 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 8:04 AM, John Watlington <wad at laptop.org>  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>  I'm personally pretty involved in Gen 2.  If Gen2 is going to  
>>>>> run Windows,
>>>>>  it seriously limits the choice of processors.  I can assure you  
>>>>> that I have
>>>>>  no such restrictions when making processor selections.
>>>>>           
>>>> Thank you for this (albeit small) piece of information about what  
>>>> OLPC
>>>> is working on these days. You are telling us that we need to infer
>>>> OLPC's commitment to Sugar because you are choosing a processor
>>>> without taking in account Windows support? Do you call this clarity?
>>>>         
>>>  I'm sorry you don't understand.  Yes, this is as clear as it  
>>> gets.  If OLPC
>>>  is giving up on Sugar, and moving to Windows (or even contemplating
>>>  Windows as a viable replacement for Sugar) then I would have to
>>>  select an x86 processor for Gen2.
>>>       
>> Please read again what I wrote. I think that this issue is worth much
>> more than an indirect reference.
>>
>> And by the way, have you already selected a processor? Which are  
>> the favorites?
>>     
>
> Processor selection for Gen2 has been ongoing for six months, and is  
> expected to
> narrow down in the next few months.  Gen2 will probably be an SOC, so  
> "processor"
> is not the right term.
>
> We are favoring ARM and x86 right now, although the power consumption  
> of the
> x86 solutions are not ideal.   Multiple vendors support each.
> I personally wish PPC were more competitive, but IBM and Freescale  
> are going
> for different markets than ours.
>
>   

Sorry for jumping in the middle of this thread, but I is the 
consideration for different SoC types based on being able to run Windows 
at some point in time? What if Gen2 has an architecture that doesn't run 
Windows?

Sameer
> Just to reiterate (this frequently gets written on whiteboards around  
> 1CC, but rarely
> mailed), the goals of Gen2 (in order) are:
>
> 1 - Lower Power
> 2 - Lower Cost
> 3 - More Robust
> 4 - Better Performance
>
> wad
>
>
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