What about Sugar? (Was: Mtg with Nicholas at 3pm on Thursday)

Tomeu Vizoso tomeu at tomeuvizoso.net
Sat Apr 19 05:03:01 EDT 2008


On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 8:13 AM, John Watlington <wad at laptop.org> wrote:
>
>  On Apr 18, 2008, at 2:27 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 5:48 PM, John Watlington <wad at laptop.org> wrote:
> >
> > >  On Apr 18, 2008, at 6:24 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 8:04 AM, John Watlington <wad at laptop.org>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >  I'm personally pretty involved in Gen 2.  If Gen2 is going to run
> Windows,
> > > > >  it seriously limits the choice of processors.  I can assure you
> that I have
> > > > >  no such restrictions when making processor selections.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for this (albeit small) piece of information about what OLPC
> > > > is working on these days. You are telling us that we need to infer
> > > > OLPC's commitment to Sugar because you are choosing a processor
> > > > without taking in account Windows support? Do you call this clarity?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  I'm sorry you don't understand.  Yes, this is as clear as it gets.  If
> OLPC
> > >  is giving up on Sugar, and moving to Windows (or even contemplating
> > >  Windows as a viable replacement for Sugar) then I would have to
> > >  select an x86 processor for Gen2.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Please read again what I wrote. I think that this issue is worth much
> > more than an indirect reference.
> >
> > And by the way, have you already selected a processor? Which are the
> favorites?
> >
>
>  Processor selection for Gen2 has been ongoing for six months, and is
> expected to
>  narrow down in the next few months.  Gen2 will probably be an SOC, so
> "processor"
>  is not the right term.
>
>  We are favoring ARM and x86 right now, although the power consumption of
> the
>  x86 solutions are not ideal.   Multiple vendors support each.
>  I personally wish PPC were more competitive, but IBM and Freescale are
> going
>  for different markets than ours.
>
>  Just to reiterate (this frequently gets written on whiteboards around 1CC,
> but rarely
>  mailed), the goals of Gen2 (in order) are:
>
>  1 - Lower Power
>  2 - Lower Cost
>  3 - More Robust
>  4 - Better Performance

I'm very happy to see performance the last point. We can do much
better from the software side.

Thanks,

Tomeu



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