Massive mesh view?

Todd Kelsey tekelsey at gmail.com
Sat Oct 20 17:28:28 EDT 2007


There is some work being done at Meadan on mapping users and a scalable
interface -- this might represent an opportunity for convergence. if the
"thin client" (xo) didn't have processing power to generate/update in
realtime, you could generate such a map on a server, or peer to peer on
another cluster of computers (ex peer "donors"), and perhaps push over a
simple bitmap using ajax?

On 10/20/07, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos <ypod at mit.edu> wrote:
>
> Representation of massive numbers of XOs in the network is definitely an
> interesting problem. It may be a little early to jump into providing
> solutions, but I dealt with the problem recently while working on my
> space activity, and space itself can be a scarce resource on screen,
> especially if you won't the layout of the icons to make some sense.
>
> Given a standard amount of space (the screen size), one approach is
> resize the icons in order to accommodate more icons on screen. But do we
> just resize all icons equally? I'd say no, because you may want to keep
> close friends at standard icon size and have everybody else shrink
> according to the level of interaction you may have with them. So, one
> size does not fit all.
>
> I would even go as far as to propose a Google Earth approach, where you
> zoom-out above ground and back in to focus on the people you're looking
> for. Also, providing a "temperature map" of human clusters may be
> another approach. I understand that the processing power required in
> both cases may also be "massive" and therefore prohibitive, but I just
> meant to layout some ideas.
>
> Pol
>
> Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
> >   Thank you, Walter,
> >
> >   Ah, yes.  I would think that we could emphasize the "openness" of
> > platform so that letting people setup their own Jabber server would be
> > one way to go, as it is more likely that the buyers of G1G1 will have
> > some other computers.
> >
> >   Still an SNS system hooked up with laptops ID might be good.
> > Customizable SNS engines like OpenPNE could be a good starting
> > point to set up something relatively in short time...
> >
> > -- Yoshiki
> >
> > At Sat, 20 Oct 2007 07:33:09 -0400,
> > Walter Bender wrote:
> >
> >> Even outside of the context of the G1G1 program, many of your
> >> questions are relevant. The current "neighborhood view" will not scale
> >> for a large school. We have a number of enhancements to the view  in
> >> the works, principally filtering. (As Philip mentioned, the "friends
> >> view", to which you invite people, is in essence a filtered
> >> neighborhood view--there can be many others.) In the context of a
> >> school or community deployment, there will be multiple Jabber servers,
> >> but we will also want the Jabber servers to talk to each other at some
> >> level, so that there are bridges between islands of users. For G1G1,
> >> there will be a default Jabber server, but undoubtedly more will pop
> >> up.
> >>
> >> -walter
> >>
> >> On 10/20/07, Yoshiki Ohshima <yoshiki at vpri.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>>   Hello,
> >>>
> >>>   Recently, I talked with some folks who are trying to do promotion of
> >>> the give one get one program, and some issues (all are related) came
> >>> up:
> >>>
> >>>   - How many users can be shown in the mesh view?
> >>>   - If you limit the number of buddys on the view, how do you limit?
> >>>   - Are we going to have many (jabber) servers for these buyers in the
> US?
> >>>   - Are we going to have an SNS like community so that (for example)
> >>>     a set of friends can have a place to find each other easily?
> >>>
> >>> A senario was that a kid and her niece on the different coasts should
> >>> be able to find each other.
> >>>
> >>> I don't know if there is plan for these (for the G1G1 program), but
> >>> having an SNS site sounds like a good idea.  The parents will feel
> >>> safer if they know with whom their kids are talking.
> >>>
> >>> -- Yoshiki
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> >> --
> >> Walter Bender
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