[Wikireader] english wikireaders and 0.7

[Samuel Klein]

Let us meet again today at 3pm Eastern / 1900 UTC  in #kiwix .  I hope
we have real article lists to discuss :-)

SJ

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Martin Walker <walkerma at potsdam.edu> wrote:
> SJ,
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> I can manage an IRC meeting on Friday - say at 3pm EDT (1900h UTC)?  If this
> is difficult for others, I will be around next week.  We have the
> #wikipedia-1.0 channel ( irc://irc.freenode.net/#wikipedia-1.0 ) if you
> wish, but perhaps you have a wikireader channel that may be more
> appropriate?
>
> Martin
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> Samuel Klein wrote:
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>> @martin -- How about having a Friday afternoon wikireader meeting?
>> For this week, whether or not we meet, a pressing question is : Generating
>> the main page.  For the spanish WP, Madeleine did most of the main page by
>> hand with a bit of help.  We may have to do the same here until better
>> scripts are set up.
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>> A couple people built the main page for our spanish-language bundle more
>> or less by hand from a portal template.
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>> Metadata :
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>> 1. metadata that is currently particularly useful for us is:
>>  - a blacklist of article titles, and a blacklist of images, for the very
>> few that we explicitly leave out despite other metadata
>>  - a whitelist of both, again to ensure inclusion.
>>
>> 2. In a general system, I'd like to see this tagged with the name of the
>> group associated; say olpc-peru-blacklist and olpc-peru-whitelist.
>>
>> @cfabian -- testing this on bee units sounds like a fun test of the
>> metadata slimming!
>>
>> SJ
>>
>> ps - any news from the offline spanish wp project that got started a while
>> back?
>>
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>> On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Martin Walker <walkerma at potsdam.edu
>> <mailto:walkerma at potsdam.edu>> wrote:
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>>    Things are looking very promising for the Version 0.7 selection -
>>    we should have a complete article list within a week or so,
>>    containing about 30,000 articles organized by a combination of
>>    quality and importance.  With our basic system of compression ,
>>    using I think probably Zeno format), I believe we should be able
>>    to include 30,000 long-ish articles with thumbnails on one DVD,
>>    along with Kiwix and some index pages.  I'd be interested to see
>>    how it would work with your compression system - we could get a
>>    few people to test that, I think.
>>
>>    I know how you love metadata, SJ, and we now have loads of it
>>    (from 1.4 million articles) - so we can customize the selection
>>    for you at will using quality, wikiproject, or the four importance
>>    paramaters.  Since this is for kids in specific places, we can
>>    emphasize dinosaurs or birds, exclude serial killers, or include
>>    all articles from (say) Uganda, all as requested.  Let me know if
>>    this feature is useful.  We don't have an equivalent ranking for
>>    images, I'm afraid - for V0.7 we just include all legal images (as
>>    thumbnails).  As for a "main page", the plan is to have a set of
>>    index pages generated by bot and then corrected by a manual
>>    "reality check", but that will take another month or two.
>>
>>    I'd really like to make sure that we make sure we work together in
>>    the coming months, because I think we can avoid a lot of duplicate
>>    work if we share our best resources, scripts, etc.  Once the
>>    selection is done (~ 1st Sept), should we hold an IRC discussion
>>    on how we can best collaborate?
>>
>>    Martin
>>
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>>    Samuel Klein wrote:
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>>        There's lots of motivation to get an english wikireader, say,
>>        taking advantage of the article selection and processing of 0.7 .
>>        OLPC could include this in the upcoming G1G1 machines this
>>        winter / early next year.  Other users could test wikireaders
>>        that read this zipped format on their own machines, which
>>        would flesh out the reader code.
>>
>>        Martin -- what's the status on the 0.7 articlelist?  Do you
>>        have a similar imagelist that ranks images by importance to
>>        that set of articles?
>>        How is work on a 0.7 main page?  I'd love to see how large a
>>        snapshot is with our curent wikireader code (without even
>>        moving to 7z, or trimming the list).
>>
>>        SJ
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