Hi James, <br><br>I didn't get your e-mail yesterday! Thanks for resending! That was most helpful. <br><br>To clarify...yes, I used olpc-update not fs-update. I'd like to chase the root of this idiosyncrasy however I'm also in the midst of user testing for Squeakland (Etoys) and my priority is getting Etoys 4.1 tested with the latest build Sugar build. <br>
<br>The whole purpose of my query is to write a step-by-step guide for another organization (Education Kindling) team in the Philippines because they have incoming laptops that need to be ready for deployment, in hopefully two weeks. It's not a big pilot. Just 100 XO 1.5s. I just noticed the firmware oddity when I was reading through the directions online and checking my firmware build. <br>
<br>Thank you for pointing out the Receiver set-up! I glanced at the headings quickly and didn't read it carefully. Thank you! I have no way of going through the steps of NandBlasting (though I've done so with the XO 1.0) as I only have one 1.5, but I will include the steps as it looks like it's already been tested.<br>
<br>Also, please let me know if there's a quick set-up guide in a handy dandy pdf/word doc already available out there. I certainly don't want to reinvent the wheel. <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">I am expecting another week of Etoys test and then I'll go ahead and try to reproduce the oddity that I observed. <br>
<br>Thank you for your time!!!<br>Cherry <br><br>On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:53 PM, James Cameron <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org">quozl@laptop.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
On Wed, Sep 01, 2010 at 12:16:01PM -0700, Cherry Withers wrote:<br>
> When I updated to the new Sugar [OLPC OS] release of 852, the Firmware<br>
<div class="im">> stayed in its old version of Q3A36.<br>
<br>
</div>Was external power connected at the time of a reboot? Only then will<br>
firmware be updated. If not, it's a bug, and I'll need to work with you<br>
to determine the cause. Let me know if the external power was connected<br>
before a reboot?<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> So the statement above is incorrect?<br>
<br>
</div>No, I don't think so.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> Or is this just a matter of doing a clean build (using the first part<br>
> of the instructions on the wiki) versus an "update"?<br>
<br>
</div>It should also happen after an olpc-update, is that what you did? It's<br>
not clear from your mail. How did you reach os852; using fs-update,<br>
using four game key press, or using olpc-update?<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> Is Q3A50 the accompanying "release" version of the firmware?<br>
<br>
</div>No, Q3A48 is the firmware version embedded in os852. You need Q3A50 on<br>
a NANDblaster sender though.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> In <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Nandblaster_for_XO-1.5" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Nandblaster_for_XO-1.5</a><br>
><br>
> - I'm assuming that "finding the channel" for either the sender<br>
> happens automatically (ie, there's no need for additional set-up by<br>
> going through the neighborhood and connecting to a wifi network,<br>
> etc.). It's just a matter of both the receiver and sender to be on the<br>
</div>> same channel ...<br>
<br>
The sender picks the channel with the least activity. The receiver<br>
checks all channels for a sender.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> and to ensure success<br>
> just force the channel<br>
<br>
</div>Yes, forcing the channel may increase the chances of success, but doing<br>
it without knowledge of the radio conditions may decrease the chances of<br>
success.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> (in my head I've associated the channels to the mesh<br>
> channels which are no longer in XO 1.5)?<br>
<br>
</div>This may change.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> - there are no instructions for setting up the Receiver. Is it safe to<br>
> assume that we should follow the instructions for NANDblasting the XO<br>
> 1.0 when it comes to the Receiver?<br>
<br>
</div>There are instructions for setting up the receiver ... start them with<br>
the four game keys held down, says the page. Then it says ... if this<br>
does not work, you may need to manually update the firmware first. This<br>
should not be required for laptops shipped recently.<br>
<br>
If you've been using prototype laptops then you may need to upgrade the<br>
firmware version first. What firmware version are they? You mentioned<br>
Q3A36 above. This is far too old. The Wiki page says you should use<br>
Q3A45 or later if the laptops do not start receiving.<br>
<br>
The instructions do not describe how to upgrade the firmware first,<br>
because in most cases that will not be required, and besides the time<br>
cost of checking the firmware version is higher than the time cost of<br>
just trying to receive the broadcast.<br>
<br>
The procedure is optimised for mass deployment, not mass upgrade.<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
--<br>
James Cameron<br>
<a href="http://quozl.linux.org.au/" target="_blank">http://quozl.linux.org.au/</a><br>
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