[Testing] [olpc-nz] Testing summary - Auckland New Zealand, 5 February 2011

Sat Feb 5 19:45:05 EST 2011

Hi Tabitha

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 2:47 AM, Tabitha Roder <tabitha at tabitha.net.nz>wrote:

> Testing summary - Auckland New Zealand, 5 February 2011
>
> Who: Alana (primary teacher), Anna (primary teacher), Ben, Charlotte (ten
> year old), Fabiana, Mary-Lou, Robin, Tabitha, Tom
>
> Learned that in some new games (Trails, Rectangles, PJ) you can press both
> the mouse buttons at the same time and you get the screen resolution and fps
> information. Press them again and the information goes away. (last week we
> thought it was a bug, now we think it might be a feature)
>
>
Great that you found this, it's a feature from al
sugargame (bfore known as olpcgame-pygame)  based activities.

The touchpad cursor jerky issues appear on all the new games we are trying
> -  Trails, Rectangles, PJ, PJ lite. Don't have that issue on Memorize and
> the other standard build activities. Maybe these new games are too memory
> intensive?
>
> I think that this is related to sugargame cursors.

> ---
>
> Trails-4 on XO-1.0 running 439dx 0.88.1
> Once I figured out that you can only go up numerically to the right or
> down, the game was much easier to play ;-)
> You get points for putting the matching the number on the ghost number.
> Seemed to work okay and follow the same rules each play.
>
> WikipediaEN on XO-1.0 running 439dx 0.88.1
> Very slow to copy from USB to Journal - could there be a progress indicator
> for these big files? This was loaded by two different testers who both
> thought that the laptop had crashed. In one case it eventually launched
> wikipedia, in the other case it seems that it did acutally crash as the
> mouse stopping responding and the laptop had to be reset.
> One of the tabs is in spanish - "search" says "buscar"
> Links to high levels of poverty and illiteracy and malnutrition are green
> (meaning they are not loaded) - page loaded from is India
> Is there a place for a debate on what pages should be included for each
> continent/country - maybe there are 500 pages that are hand picked and 24500
> pages that are top hits.
>
> Wikipedia (spanish)
> Why does this activity not have ES in the name, to match EN?
> Couldn't test it as didn't install correctly and we couldn't download it
> again
>
>
These are fair requeriments, i think that wikipedia cannot change name
because is used in
large deployments. is more natural tu use wikipedia than wikipediaES, we
will follow on the progress bar when copy from journal to usb.

> PJ Lite
> tested by ten year old, she thinks this is a good level of difficulty for
> her and didn't want to try PJ with more pieces and upside down pieces. she
> struggled with jerky cursor, even using a USB mouse. She did play this game
> for a reasonable amount of time and do more than one puzzle so I think it
> passes the ten year old test. One of the teachers also enjoyed playing this.
>
>
> Castle
> tested by ten year old who went into a couple of rooms and picked things
> up, put one jewel in the chest, then she decided too hard for her. She tried
> the game again later in the day but still only played for about a minute
> before deciding it was too hard (she wanted someone to tell her how to play
> and what to do)
>
>
fwiw this is followed by

http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2573

> Typing turtle
> tested by ten year old, got bored very quickly and moved on, Alana (primary
> teacher) said she remembered liking typing games when she was young so
> possibly it was that the ten year old thought there were better games than
> typing
>
> ----
>
> Testing 861 10.1.3-au2 0.84.31 on XO-1.5
> There is a massive amount of activities installed but you only get a few in
> the activity ring (and not the ones we expected) - is this deliberate?
> Behind the activity ring is a spotty white not plain - is this deliberate?
>
> You have to mark them as favorites on list view in order to be seen them in
the ring

> What is this build called? Should it announce itself in the control panel
> as au861-2 like the filename as well as 10.1.3-au2?
>
> Tux Paint - not a Sugarised activity but still a good one! slow to load a
> new page (in fact we ended up restarting laptop as kill failed), teachers in
> the group were interested in this activity
>

We have to make a bug for Tuxpaint sugarization,

> Speak - works, robot doesn't understand many questions
>

This is because speak DB is very limited should be
complemented,

> Maze - works
> Physics - first time user enjoyed making things crash into each other, it
> would be good if you could set the density of an object
> Deducto - sample page has "true bo" and "falsh bo" (labels don't fit
> buttons) and pressing the buttons does not change the sample board
>
> Musicpainter - ten year old painted some very busy music successfully with
> a variety of colours (instruments) and played them back, then studied the
> collected melodies and investigated each instrument in the colour palette
> and discovered that left to right is time and up and down is pitch (though
> not in those words!). She is figuring out quite a bit, a winning activity,
> but when we quit the activity the a distorted sound loop kept playing (top
> shows csoundxo using almost 80% of cpu), restarted the activity and it
> seemed to be fixed (wonder if stop button doesn't work), sound quality is
> really awful on Poppy Copy compared to the tamtam suite of activities run on
> the same laptop. It sortof feels like a buffer underrun issue. On Shadow,
> the sound is better, but many notes are glitchy with clicks and pops at the
> beginning or end. It seems that csoundxo uses 95% of the cpu on Shadow every
> second time you switch away from Music Painter. This seems to be quite
> reproducible, persisting across system restarts. We didn't quite raise a
> ticket for it as more testing is needed (at least, ssh in from another
> laptop to see the cpu consumption while Music Painter is focused and try on
> another laptop (since it seems to behave differently on different laptops)).
> Tried to make a Sheppard Tone, but it didn't work, perhaps not enough
> octaves are available? We will try this again next time. While making the
> Sheppard Tone, got Music Painter into a strange state, changing the
> instrument caused one of the progressions to change colour. I was unable to
> work out how to change the instrument without affecting some of the
> previously drawn music, nor undestand why it only effected one progression
> and not the others. This persisted across restarts (which load the same
> composition). Didn't try a new composition. Will try more next time.
>
> Record - took photos, video playback was slow (kept stopping to load),
> audio recording failed and did not give an output file
>
> About record we have to make trac bugs for sopping load and audio recording
not giving output.

> Story Builder - uses 100% of the cpu even when it is not visible. Raised
> ticket #2578. Also found that Story Builder won't start after you have
> started Music Painter. Raised ticket #2579
>
> These are pygame issues thanks for enter the bugs!.

> Numbers - ten year old can do the all the levels and seemed to enjoy it
> (strangely the 1 times tables seemed to throw her in the beginning), didn't
> appear to get harder as she changed the levels. The primary teachers that
> visited us said the easy levels should have one method (like add or times)
> and harder levels should have mixed methods (both add and times).
>
> Tessellate - Works, nice simple game!
>
> -----
>
>
Thanks for your great work!.

> Question for design team
> On modern operating systems we have noticed that the search function
> searches applications and files (everything), is there a reason for
> separating activities and journal search functions in Sugar or should we
> consider a more global search option?
>
> Power Logs are attached.
>
> Thanks testers
> Tabitha
>
>
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