[Testing] Final review for Power Management Requirements, Trial-2
Dan Williams
dcbw at redhat.com
Mon Jul 16 14:47:10 EDT 2007
On Mon, 2007-07-16 at 11:14 -0400, Chris Ball wrote:
> Hi Kim,
>
> Thanks for writing this up and for the reminder to comment.
>
> > PW1 Whenever possible the laptop should go into DCON mode, which is
> > the lowest possible power usage to conserve battery life. If the
> > laptop is powered up and left running without intervention with
> > default 'suspend' power settings, the laptop battery life should
> > exceed 24 hours.
>
> Just switching to DCON mode will not have enough of an effect to get
> battery life up to 24 hours. The CPU is still turned on in DCON mode;
> all that's off is the memory traffic between the CPU and DCON. We would
> still expect to be drawing CPU + backlight + wireless, which is going to
> be around 3-4 watts ~= 5 hours.
>
> Maybe the second sentence is talking about the battery life we get in
> *suspend* mode, not DCON mode; if so, it should be in a different
> section. That's what's implied by "the lowest possible power usage",
> I think?
>
> > PW1.1 While in DCON mode or when coming in and out of DCON mode,
> > the student will not notice anything as the screen will remain
> > on. (See Screen off below, which WILL be noticed by the student).
>
> Agreed.
>
> > * PW2 After 10 minutes of inactivity through keyboard, mouse,
> > directional, or gamepad keys, the screen will turn completely off
> > (black).
>
> Disagree. Watching a two-hour movie would mean you have to deal with
> the screen turning off until a wakeup press twelve times. I think we
> can rephrase this to:
>
> * PW2 After 10 minutes of inactivity through keyboard, mouse,
> directional, or gamepad keys, the screen will turn completely off
> (black), unless a running activity has asked to inhibit this timeout.
>
> * PW3 The screen will turn back on at the press of any
> > key on the keyboard, mouse, directional or gamepad keys. The back
> > light will come back on to the level it was before the screen saver
> > turned on.
>
> Agreed.
>
> > * PW4 Pushing the 'Suspend/Resume' button (used to be the power
> > button), will put the laptop into suspend mode, which includes
> > Screen off. + PW4.1 In suspend mode, the laptop will continue to
> > forward wireless packets if it is in the path between another
> > laptop and an internet connection (school server, XO as MPP).
> > + PW4.2 Pushing the 'Suspend/Resume' button when the laptop is
> > suspended will return it to powered on state with the same
> > activities running as before it suspended.
>
> We need to add a section on what happens when the lid closes -- it
> should be "Suspend including Screen Off", as already defined. But,
> if closing the lid achieves that, it's not clear that there's a good
> reason for the power button suspend to exist, since it does the same
> thing. I'd originally thought that power button suspend would leave
> the screen on (either with backlight on or backlight off). Jim, any
> ideas?
I guess I don't really see the utility of the power button suspend as
we've got it now. It's pretty well useless. I can't really think of
what the power button suspend should do differently than a lid-closed
suspend (they both should turn go into "only wifi on" mode), and having
two methods seems redundant, but whatever... In any case, I just think
having the panel and backlight on but suspended via the power button
isn't really useful. Ohm should be idle-suspending you in between
gamekey presses anyway for soemthing like ebook mode, you shouldn't have
to push the button.
Dan
> > * PW5 When the battery gets to its defined shut down level, whether
> > in suspend mode or full operational mode, it will shut down
> > gracefully, without data destruction.
>
> Agreed. (For FRS, we like the idea of having a suspend-to-NAND that can
> be used when the battery is low and there is enough space on the NAND,
> so that the kids don't have to reboot completely every time their
> battery runs out. That isn't well-specified enough to go in this
> document yet, though.)
>
> > * PW6 The student must be able to execute a full power down of the
> > laptop from the Sugar home view.
>
> Agreed.
>
> (Sorry if I sound like I'm complaining without taking the time to
> rewrite -- I'm happy to work on the rewriting once we have consensus.)
>
> - Chris.
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