[Testing] Test Group meeting minutes, 12/3/07
Kim Quirk
kim at laptop.org
Mon Dec 3 14:41:05 EST 2007
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/TestMtg%2C_2007-12-02
Attending: Kim, Alex, Scott, Michael, Bernie, Chris, Jim, Adam
Agenda:
1. Automated test harness(es): getting beyond tinderbox (some
discussion on tinderbox is good, too!)
2. GUI testing
3. Activity Testing (Greg's project)
4. Integration, System, Performance, Scaling (everything else)
Automated testing ideas:
- Overarching goal is to have as much automated testing as possible to
be able to provide 'reliable' builds.
- Second part of the goal is that testing takes a long time (even
tinderbox with old hardware)
- Also, a single test methodology can't catch everything, need
mulitple test strategies:
1. Tinderbox
2. Functional tests
3. GUI test tool (trac #5277)
4. Headless tests (trac #5276)
- Link checking the library
- verifying file systems are appropriate
- text black list, etc. (trac #5275)
Build process view (trac #5279):
1. Collect packages from Cogi; make sure there are SRPMs
2. Pilgrim puts all the pieces together and generates change logs
3. Automated testing
4. Installation: this build only shows up on download.laptop.org
- Official builds (signed)
- Test stream, release candidates (signed)
- Development stream (always unsigned)
Need to get this all on a wiki page for discussion, review and reference for
all developers and testers.
One goal of this process is that 'latest' releases (even joyride) should
always compile and have passed the automated testing.
Test harnesses:
- Tinderbox: Checks whether a build installs, boots, connects to the
wireless mesh, runs activities, power measurements
1. Action item: Need Richard to create an MP unit for tinderbox
to replace the old laptop there.
2. Action item: Chris will take the action to get tinderbox
reporting again.
- Headless Python Test Suite: Scott is going to define this one -
target 'easy' things that don't require XOs. Big low-hanging.
1. First: Infrastructure to tie builds and testing (build or
test slaves).
2. This harness might be a good one to get Figleaf kind of
measurements.
3. Provide info to developers on how to create nose tests.
- Qemu harness: runs all the activities in a window on your desktop
1. Can we pull versions from the build infrastructure?
2. Can we do activity collaboration testing at this level?
- Activity collaboration testing can be done without XOs
- 'Test Activity' - Manual tests that people can run and report into a
central database.
- Hydra: test cluster of a small number of XOs connected via serial
connector. Michael Stone has created this harness. This has been good for
development debugging... not so much for automated.
- GUI testing - if we can emulate the proper screen resolution, would
that be good enough? X-automation package provides 'xgrep' and take a
portion of an image and say if it is a part of another image. This might be
good for some sugar/journal stuff.
- Code coverage: Will be important to get measurements for many of
these harnesses. First in the direction of features that crash or are
sensitive. Also need memory leak tools.
1. Must work per component - so lets specify components to get
started; and start getting some numbers
2. Figleaf, Coverage.py - two possible tools
BuildBot info:
- Problem statement - there are many people who have written test
suites for their code. Their software relies on our distribution. How can we
collect the feedback about what is broken in the field?
- There are lots of programs written in Python; developers want to
make sure their new code or feature to python doesn't break something else
important out there.
- At OLPC, we want to encourage activity developers to run some tests
that will feedback info to us. Similarly a change that we got from fedora
doesn't break something important from our partners.
- Buildbot uses a master-slave architecture. Master farms out tasks.
Slaves and master need to communicate on what tests need to be run with this
new slave. If tinderbox were a buildbot master, for example, then people
could submit additions to the testing.
(You can see an example of this in [1] <http://pybots.org/>.)
- We could ask the Buildbot guys to dynamically collect the test cases
from which to build.
One Laptop per Teacher (program):
- Jim described a program they are doing in Peru; where each teacher
gets a laptop. They would like to run Sugar on their non-XO laptops.
Probably use VMWare.
- We should make it possible for them to test; not do it for them.
- kim
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