[sugar] Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec

[Walter Bender]

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Erik Garrison <erik at laptop.org> wrote:
> Well.  It's off-topic.
>
> I guess it came to mind because the Journal and datastore are a point of
> incompatibility between Sugar and the rest of the Linux desktop world.
>
> Erik
>
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 08:16:25AM -0400, Walter Bender wrote:
>> Could you please elaborate on what the behavior of the Journal has to
>> do with this thread?
>>
>> -walter
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Erik Garrison <erik at laptop.org> wrote:
>> > On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 05:01:41PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
>> >> My impression, based on historical conversations with the parties
>> >> involved is that there are a bunch of hackers who feel that we did
>> >> ourselves a disservice by dropping _so much_ backwards compatibility,
>> >> specifically with Unix filesystems and desktops, in exchange for
>> >> cool ideas. The feeling is that had we traded compatibility for features
>> >> less aggressively then there would be many more hackers available to
>> >> help write the features since there would be many more hackers who felt
>> >> it was possible to live within Sugar.
>> >>
>> >> This is just an impression, however.
>> >
>> > For what it's worth, it is also my impression.  I have heard similarly
>> > from virtually all technically-oriented parties involved.  I have heard
>> > echos of this from less technical users (e.g. teachers who are confused
>> > by the behavior of the journal).
>> >
>> > Erik
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Walter Bender
>> Sugar Labs
>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>

We all agree that the datastore needs serious attention, although it
doesn't directly impact the running of legacy activities. Rainbow is
an issue. And moving data back and forth between Sugar and legacy apps
is an issue. But I'll argue the WM is a relatively minor issue in
these respects.

-walter

-- 
Walter Bender
Sugar Labs
http://www.sugarlabs.org