[sugar] Supporting desktop applications, extending the EWMH spec

Mikus Grinbergs mikus at bga.com
Fri Sep 19 16:59:15 EDT 2008


Lots of discussion -- but I'm not sure how much benefit the Sugar 
*user* might receive.

I think that everybody agrees (myself included) that the user must 
be able to call up the Frame anytime.  And for typical Activities, 
the amount of screen real estate they *themselves* obstruct (which 
the Frame itself doesn't already obstruct) is small.  Looks like a 
"general" mechanism to free up screen real estate ends up freeing 
mainly areas that get overlain anyway whenever Frame is called.

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To me, supporting "multiple windows for one Activity" is a much more 
pressing need than supporting "full screen for every Activity".  In 
the current Sugar implementation, alt-tab appears to provide an 
adequate way to navigate among such windows (i.e., screens) - but 
more discussion is needed about the role of Frame in this situation.

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I see nothing wrong with what some Activities already implement - by 
default they run with some areas obstructed by "decorations" -- but 
at the option of the user a short-cut removes those decorations. 
[Now if the discussion were about how to best implement such a 
facility - go to it.  But it seems to me the discussion is leaning 
too far towards a "let's free the Activity's limits" crusade.]

I think that to a user, "gray circles left in Frame" are of more 
immediate concern than "shortcomings of using Matchbox with Sugar".


mikus



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