[sugar] Ideas for Journal: How epiphany browser manages bookmarks just with tags

C. Scott Ananian cscott at laptop.org
Fri Sep 19 15:14:38 EDT 2008


On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Eduardo H. Silva <hoboprimate at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ideas for Journal: How epiphany browser manages bookmarks just with
> tags (and does it nicely, with potential of improving of course).
>
> I made a screenshot slide-show of how tagging and the dynamic
> bookmarks menu based solely on tags work in Gnome's Epiphany browser.
> I hope this can be usefull to gather ideas for how the tagging system
> in the Journal could work. This could also be helpful if tagging in
> the future can be done within activities, so that they are easily, and
> thus more often, used.
>
> I show how in Epiphany:
>
> tags are searched;
> tags are suggested;
> pre-existing and new tags are added;
> tags are presented;
> and how tagged bookmarks are organized in a menu.
>
> The size is a bit big because of all the screenshots, it's 46.7 MB .
> C_scott uploaded it for me, at
> http://dev.laptop.org/~cscott/eduardo-epiphany-tags.pdf
>
> Eduardo

Eben, Eduardo, and I have been chatting about this some over IRC.
What I find most interesting here is how *filesystem paths* (well, URL
paths in this particular case) are integrated with tags.

For example, when you type 'fsf', both 'http://fsf.org/' and other
things tagged with 'fsf' show up.  This ties in with one of my
frustrations with google's tag system: I have olpc, olpc-fedora,
olpc-sugar, olpc-sugarlabs, etc tags in google, when what I really
want is 'olpc/fedora', 'olpc/sugar', etc.  Sometimes I want to see all
olpc-related mail, sometimes only sugar-related olpc mail, etc.

If you accept that tags can sometimes be ordered, so that a/b is
different than b/a (although both will show up on searches for 'a' and
'b'), then this starts looking more and more like a way to view
filesystems as well, for those old enough to want to do that.

If you have files in ~/Journal/Music/Bach/Disc1 and
~/Journal/Music/Beethoven/Disc1, you can search for 'Bach', 'Music
Bach' as well as 'Bach/Disc1' or 'Music/Bach/Disc1' if you want to be
specific.  When you insert a USB key with files in a directory called
'Music/Mozart', they appear in the journal as if they were tagged
'Music/Mozart' and you can search for 'Mozart' or 'Music' to find
them.  When I copy them to my XO, the tags come with, and I have
operations to retag groups of files that are the result of a search
(which can look very much like "groups of files which are in a
specific directory").

Rather than having two separate views for 'hierarchy' and 'journal',
this unifies them so achieve a more consistent and "growable"
interface: you don't have to discard everything you know and learn a
new metaphor and interface when you start to use 'folders'.



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