[sugar] [IAEP] Developing activities.

[Simon Schampijer]

Morgan Collett wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 09:57, Simon Schampijer <simon at schampijer.de> wrote:
>> Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 6:05 PM, David Farning <dfarning at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>>>> 1.  Create Sugar-devel at sugarlabs.org mailing list.  We have discussed
>>>> this a few time over the last few months.  Now that we are getting
>>>> distro (other the OLPC) related comments the time seems right
> 
> +1
> 
>>>> 2. Create Activities-devel at sugarlabs.org mailing list.  This will focus
>>>> on activity developer related issues.
>>> Are there strong reasons to separate the two lists? (Morgan seem to be
>>> making a different recommendation).
>>>
>>> Marco
>> Yeah it is only meant as a way to notify the activity authors. An
>> announcement list:
>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Morgs/Activities_survey/Recommendations#Mailing_Lists
>>
>> All the rest of the discussion is going to the sugar-ml.
>>
>> Best,
>>    Simon
>>
>> PS: some will argue that you can use headers for that as well - but from
>> morgan's survey I think we saw that this was the best way to go.
> 
> My original proposal was to have a list dedicated to activity
> development. There was a lot of feedback on that suggesting that we
> should continue to use the sugar list for development discussion so as
> not to fragment the community.
> 
> What I got out of the survey is that we need a way for activity
> developers to unsubscribe from the high-traffic lists but still get
> relevant notifications. A high percentage of these developers don't
> have the time to keep up with the daily traffic about the platform,
> but are missing the information that they need. For example, I'm not
> confident of reaching them all (including those that didn't answer the
> survey) with the survey results unless I mail them individually.
> 
> Therefore I think a devel-announce at l.sugarlabs.o list (which we used
> briefly at the start of the Sugar 0.82 cycle) is more relevant to them
> than an activities-specific list. It could also be used for packagers
> who only want to see major announcements (e.g. 0.82.1 released) and
> not the development discussion traffic.
> 
> I have just noticed that there is a new devel-announce at l.laptop.o
> list, which must be new and unannounced since it's had precisely one
> mail to it: http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel-announce/2008-August/thread.html
> 
> I do think we need it to be a sugarlabs list because the activity
> developers need to keep up with the Sugar platform more than the OLPC
> distro platform (with the exception of Rainbow I guess).
> 
> What I want to get to now is finality on what I can go back to the
> activity authors and advise them. Remember that we have activity
> developers who are not using git hosting, who don't have XOs, and may
> only be using jhbuild or distro packages to develop and test their
> activities.
> 
> I suggest:
> * subscribe to devel at l.laptop.o and use  to request git hosting on

We don't have the box up yet - but sugarlabs should provide git hosting 
as well in the future.

Best,
    Simon