[sugar] alt-tabbing to the Journal

Walter Bender walter.bender at gmail.com
Tue Oct 7 08:55:09 EDT 2008


1. When?  Nobody's cited examples where it's more desirable to use
Alt-Tab than the dedicated key.

I use Sugar as much on a non-XO as I do on an XO and so I often don't
have a dedicated key to access the Journal. I would need to resort to
opening the Frame and then clicking on the Journal icon--too many
steps. Speaking personally, having come from the wonderful world of
Emacs, I tend to be more comfortable with key sequences than using
dedicated keys. Of course, in both cases, we are not talking about a
novice user. But my rule of thumb is that the Journal should be easier
to access, not harder. Removing it from the Alt-Tab sequence makes it
that much harder to find.

-walter


On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Martin Dengler <martin at martindengler.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 12:21:23PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>> have we reached any consensus on [alt-tabbing to the Journal]?
>
> No, based on http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6251
>
>> Perhaps someone that cares about changing the current behavior could
>> do a summary of the arguments on each side?
>
> *Perhaps* there are only two opposing views; I am biased but will
> attempt to summarize the pro (removing-from-alt-tab-list) and the
> con (keep-it-as-is-now) views:
>
> Pro:
>
> 1. One never wants to Alt-Tab to the journal
> 2. there is a dedicated key for getting to it
> 3. the journal should be treated more like a zoom level ("lower" than
> the home view).
> 4. Unnecessarily makes itself the active activity when focused, so now
> the Activity/F4 key as well as the search key are dedicated to it.
>
> Cons:
> 1. One sometimes wants to Alt-Tab to the journal
> 2. The journal is positioned like an activity in the Frame and UI
>
> I personally respond to the cons as follows:
>
> 1. When?  Nobody's cited examples where it's more desirable to use
> Alt-Tab than the dedicated key.
>
> 2.
> a) Frame positioning can be changed - there are two proposals and one
> with a mockup that synchronizes the keyboard layout with the frame
> layout:
>
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Activity_management_journal_core.jpeg
>
> b) I don't know what's meant by
> "positioned like an activity in the . . . UI" - it seems quite
> distinct and more like another zoom level to me, and the journal is
> never launched like other activities are (neither from Home, Mesh,
> Neighborhood zoom levels, nor resumed from itself).
>
>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tomeu
>
> Martin
>
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