[sugar] Release schedule and process
echerlin at gmail.com
Tue May 13 19:54:27 EDT 2008
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
<mpgritti at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
> <bmschwar at fas.harvard.edu> wrote:
> > The question of whether activities are included "by default" refers either
> > to prefabricated disk images or packages for distros like Fedora and
> > Ubuntu. Regarding disk images, the answer is clear: do both. We should
> > have minimal disk images, with just the Sugar base, and also demo images
> > with all the activities we think someone might want.
> > Determining what to do in the case of packages for other distros, the
> > situation is much muddier. The plan for Activity packaging is designed
> > around the idea of thousands of unknown authors writing code that installs
> > and runs with minimal privileges. Users will be able to install multiple
> > distinct activities with the same name, distinguished by cryptographic
> > authorship and history, upgrade or downgrade them, and modify their source
> > code, all without superuser access. It's already difficult to harmonize
> > this with yum/rpm and apt/deb, and it's only going to get harder with the
> > new Activity bundle system. I think our best option is to let Sugar
> > retain control of Activity installation, even when running on a system
> > with its own package management.
> I think it's useful to separate distribution and development when
> discussing this.
> You are discussing several distribution models. Some of them goes
> through a no-activities state during the process, but all of them
> include activities in their final form (unless for the distro case you
> are thinking to start clean and let the user select the activities he
There is another issue to consider. Those of us planning for a
next-generation textbook want to know for sure
what software they can count on. Otherwise, every active document will
have to be packaged with dependencies. I am considering textbooks in
drawing, music, any of the sciences that can make use of external
measuring devices, photography, math, and other subjects.
At the secondary and college levels, packaging a textbook with
accompanying software is not a problem, but in elementary school
classrooms we don't want to put the burden on both teachers and
students to deal with extra installation steps.
> To me including activities in the coordinated development process has
> two main advantages:
> 1 It gives distributors a complete product they can customize and
> extend for their users.
> 2 It makes developers work on a concrete, complete product, rather
> than on a set of libraries and services.
> Activities are our strength. Putting a bunch of them at the core of
> our development processes is the best way to ensure they get the
> attention they need.
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