[sugar] frame activation

Eben Eliason eben.eliason at gmail.com
Tue Jun 10 11:46:55 EDT 2008


On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
> Can we set up an actually experiment with some children? Uruguay,
> Paraguay, and Peru all agreed to help. This seems like a obvious place
> to start.

Yes, that would be helpful as well.  In order to make that feasible,
we need to find a good way to let them install builds for testing
purposes.  I suspect that Scott might have been considering this use
case when he mentioned breaking the builds into development/unstable,
testing, QA, and stable.  Ideally we'd provide a singed testing build
so that the kids don't all need to request dev keys to get us the
proper feedback.  Can anyone provide insight onto how/when we might be
able to do this?

- Eben

ps I did help Carla get a dev key and install a testing build
including the new activity launching feedback and the control panel,
so that she had at least one machine for testing these features and
the delay on the Frame.


> -walter
>
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Eben Eliason <eben.eliason at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I've played with it a lot.  I think that a 1/3 second delay goes a
>> long way to preventing accidental activation, but likely isn't long
>> enough to prevent discovery, especially in a classroom full of kids.
>> If everyone tests it out with a delay in this range and agrees, we
>> could institute a delay between 1/3 and 1/2 second by default and
>> probably provide a better out-of-the-box experience.
>>
>> - Eben
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 8:08 AM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Bert's point is a good one and a further argument for keeping it
>>> configurable. On my XO, the touchpad is flaky but there is a frame
>>> key. On my HP, the touchpad is reasonably stable, but I need to
>>> remember an undiscoverable keyboard binding. So I would like to have
>>> almost opposite behaviors depending upon the hardware.
>>>
>>> -walter
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:19 AM, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de> wrote:
>>>> On 10.06.2008, at 12:15, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> do we have any feedback regarding frame activation and the new control
>>>>> panel option?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it ok to ship with hot corners on by default and let the users
>>>>> change it if they wish?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As much as I hate the mouse activation, I still think this is a
>>>> sensible default. On the XO we have a Frame key, but on other hw
>>>> discovering the frame could be a lot harder.
>>>>
>>>> - Bert -
>>>>
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