[sugar] Landing patches about the network devices UI

Eben Eliason eben.eliason at gmail.com
Mon Aug 25 11:56:38 EDT 2008


On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Kimberley Quirk <kim at laptop.org> wrote:
> I don't agree with adding #4 at this time (changing how/where we see the
> mesh icons). One of the many work-arounds that we have been telling people
> in field is that they may need to choose mesh ch 6 or 11 if they want a
> small group to collaborate in a school setting without any other
> infrastructure. If the mesh icon doesn't show up in the neighborhood view,
> that will be a problem.

Why would this be a problem?  We're not changing the functionality;
only the position of the button within the UI, to be more consistent
with the device model we're following.

> I'd like to see this UI change well before it is implemented. Is there a
> url, Eben?

This was mocked up as part of my initial redesign storyboards on the
wiki: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Designs/Frame#09.  It's important that
the mesh be recognized as a capability of the laptop, and not as a
physical device somewhere else in space.  The fact that the mesh
devices were even added to the Neighborhood view was a last minute
hack, and we've been living with it (and confusing people with it)
ever since.

- Eben


> I'm less concerned about 1 and 3 because they don't seem invasive from the
> one line summary... if they get in this week as polish that would be ok. I
> don't know the depth of 5 or 2... and I'm most worried about 4.
> If all these fixes come in one patch, then I would ask that we do NOT take
> this patch. If we can pick and choose from this list to get some polish
> things into 8.2, then let's pick a few based on the invasiveness.
> Thanks,
> Kim
>
> 1 Adds "IP address" to the mesh & wireless palettes, with associated
>
> changes to their model classes.
>
> 2 Removes the "Disconnect" or "Turn On/off" entries from the
>
> wireless/mesh palettes.
>
> 3 Makes both frame icons pulse.
>
> 4 Don't show the mesh icons in the mesh view, instead show them in the
> frame.
>
> 5 Fix some iconsistency in the icon states by cleaning up the code.
>
> On Aug 25, 2008, at 10:01 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
>
> Eben Eliason wrote:
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti
>
>
>
> 4 would be nice to have but I don't consider it essential.
>
>
>
> Actually, I think this is the most important aspect of the design, and
>
> I strongly suggest we try to land it.  This has been confusing to
>
> many, and when we change it I think we need to commit to going the
>
> whole way, instead of leaving it in limbo which will only confuse
>
> people more down the road.
>
>
>
> Personally I think it's way too late for invasive UI changes. I'm fine to be
> overridden by Kim/Greg  decision in that direction, though.
>
> Marco
>
>


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