[sugar] letting the user specify the mesh channel

Sameer Verma sverma at sfsu.edu
Thu Aug 14 13:34:18 EDT 2008


Eduardo Heleno wrote:
> See http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/2866 for the information wanted. You 
> could also see if it was possible or wanted to integrate information 
> of http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/6195 .
>
> P.S.-Am I replying this correctly? Should I just reply to the list, 
> not to eben and mikus as well?
>
Its been common practice on these lists to "Reply all"

Sameer
> Edu
>
> 2008/8/14 Eben Eliason <eben.eliason at gmail.com 
> <mailto:eben.eliason at gmail.com>>
>
>     On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 6:26 AM, Eduardo H Silva
>     <hoboprimate at gmail.com <mailto:hoboprimate at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     > I like a lot the mockup
>     > http://dev.laptop.org/~mdengler/6995/6995_screenshot_45.png
>     <http://dev.laptop.org/%7Emdengler/6995/6995_screenshot_45.png>
>     ... I would just
>     > add one more sugestion. Include on the primary palette as a
>     secondary title
>     > the word "Connected". You may think that the coloring of the
>     mesh icon makes
>     > it clear it is connected, but i think it is important to be plan
>     ahead for
>     > all potential users of Sugar, like those who are blind (use some
>     kind of
>     > text-to-speech interface), color-blind, or even just poor
>     eye-sighted
>     > people.
>
>     Good points.  We could add, at a minimum, the "Connecting...",
>     "Connected", and "Disconnecting..." states as the secondary text in
>     the palette. Is this clearer, or should we use "Starting...", "On",
>     and "Stopping" instead?  If we use the former, should we change "Turn
>     on" and "Turn off"?
>
>     > There is also a ticket around about the lack of information on
>     the stages of
>     > connecting to a network. This could be done as a palette for the
>     network
>     > icon which would only appear on-mouse-hover and during the
>     period it is
>     > connecting. Users diagnosticating or curious about the
>     connection process
>     > could easily see it, while others will be just happy with the
>     blinking icon
>     > information.
>
>     Perhaps.  I'm curious to know what info/stages we actually have,
>     before specifying any design there.
>
>     - Eben
>
>
>     > Eduardo
>     >
>     > 2008/8/7 Eben Eliason <eben.eliason at gmail.com
>     <mailto:eben.eliason at gmail.com>>
>     >>
>     >> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Mikus Grinbergs <mikus at bga.com
>     <mailto:mikus at bga.com>> wrote:
>     >> >> See
>     http://dev.laptop.org/~mdengler/6995/6995_screenshot_45.png
>     <http://dev.laptop.org/%7Emdengler/6995/6995_screenshot_45.png>
>     >> >> for an example of how I currently have it looking.
>     >> >
>     >> > Thank you.
>     >> >
>     >> > Currently, I use the presence of a 'Disconnect' entry in the
>     palette
>     >> > as a "mnemonic device" to indicate to me that a connection
>     currently
>     >> > exists.  Would be nice to keep that.
>     >>
>     >> Hey Mikus -
>     >>
>     >> In the new designs, the Mesh device icon "turns on" (becomes
>     colored)
>     >> when the mesh is active, and is rendered in white when it's
>     off.  It
>     >> should be even easier to tell the present state, without needing to
>     >> dig into the palette.
>     >>
>     >> - Eben
>     >>
>     >> > p.s.  For laughs:   Now that you are *explicitly* showing channel
>     >> > numbers -- I have a friend whose home AP is on channel 9.  At his
>     >> > house, I manually use 'iwconfig' to set my XO's radio to
>     channel 9,
>     >> > to be able to connect to his AP.  I haven't tried setting
>     multiple
>     >> > XOs to channel 9 when there is no AP -- but if "mesh" were
>     >> > configured to run that way, would your palette show that?   ;>)
>     >>
>     >> No, the mesh channels are independent* of the AP channels; if you
>     >> connect to an AP on channel 9, you are not on the mesh, which
>     is only
>     >> "offered" on channels 1, 6, and 11.  If you turn the mesh on,
>     you'll
>     >> implicitly be disconnected from an AP on channel 9.  If you
>     manually
>     >> set the mesh channel otherwise, I doubt it will be reflected in
>     this
>     >> palette.
>     >>
>     >> * Note that in the future it will be possible to be connected
>     on the
>     >> mesh and to an AP, assuming they are both on the same channel.
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