[sugar] letting the user specify the mesh channel

Eben Eliason eben.eliason at gmail.com
Thu Aug 14 10:30:49 EDT 2008


On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 6:26 AM, Eduardo H Silva <hoboprimate at gmail.com> wrote:
> I like a lot the mockup
> http://dev.laptop.org/~mdengler/6995/6995_screenshot_45.png ... I would just
> add one more sugestion. Include on the primary palette as a secondary title
> the word "Connected". You may think that the coloring of the mesh icon makes
> it clear it is connected, but i think it is important to be plan ahead for
> all potential users of Sugar, like those who are blind (use some kind of
> text-to-speech interface), color-blind, or even just poor eye-sighted
> people.

Good points.  We could add, at a minimum, the "Connecting...",
"Connected", and "Disconnecting..." states as the secondary text in
the palette. Is this clearer, or should we use "Starting...", "On",
and "Stopping" instead?  If we use the former, should we change "Turn
on" and "Turn off"?

> There is also a ticket around about the lack of information on the stages of
> connecting to a network. This could be done as a palette for the network
> icon which would only appear on-mouse-hover and during the period it is
> connecting. Users diagnosticating or curious about the connection process
> could easily see it, while others will be just happy with the blinking icon
> information.

Perhaps.  I'm curious to know what info/stages we actually have,
before specifying any design there.

- Eben


> Eduardo
>
> 2008/8/7 Eben Eliason <eben.eliason at gmail.com>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Mikus Grinbergs <mikus at bga.com> wrote:
>> >> See http://dev.laptop.org/~mdengler/6995/6995_screenshot_45.png
>> >> for an example of how I currently have it looking.
>> >
>> > Thank you.
>> >
>> > Currently, I use the presence of a 'Disconnect' entry in the palette
>> > as a "mnemonic device" to indicate to me that a connection currently
>> > exists.  Would be nice to keep that.
>>
>> Hey Mikus -
>>
>> In the new designs, the Mesh device icon "turns on" (becomes colored)
>> when the mesh is active, and is rendered in white when it's off.  It
>> should be even easier to tell the present state, without needing to
>> dig into the palette.
>>
>> - Eben
>>
>> > p.s.  For laughs:   Now that you are *explicitly* showing channel
>> > numbers -- I have a friend whose home AP is on channel 9.  At his
>> > house, I manually use 'iwconfig' to set my XO's radio to channel 9,
>> > to be able to connect to his AP.  I haven't tried setting multiple
>> > XOs to channel 9 when there is no AP -- but if "mesh" were
>> > configured to run that way, would your palette show that?   ;>)
>>
>> No, the mesh channels are independent* of the AP channels; if you
>> connect to an AP on channel 9, you are not on the mesh, which is only
>> "offered" on channels 1, 6, and 11.  If you turn the mesh on, you'll
>> implicitly be disconnected from an AP on channel 9.  If you manually
>> set the mesh channel otherwise, I doubt it will be reflected in this
>> palette.
>>
>> * Note that in the future it will be possible to be connected on the
>> mesh and to an AP, assuming they are both on the same channel.
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