[sugar] [PATCH] fix #4646 - replace/normalize some keyboard shortcuts

Tomeu Vizoso tomeu at tomeuvizoso.net
Tue Apr 29 12:17:28 EDT 2008


On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Eben Eliason <eben.eliason at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at tomeuvizoso.net> wrote:
>  > Eben, Ben, are you ok with this?
>
>  I'm certainly all for removing alt-n and alt-p.  We don't need
>  redundant shortcuts here, and alt-tab and alt-shift-tab will work
>  fine.  Also, I'm the one who mentioned that we should use
>  alt-shift-tab instead of ctrl-alt-tab for going backwards, to be
>  consistent with the modifier semantics we are aiming for, so I approve
>  of that change.

Fine.

>  Ctrl-Q is likewise redundant with the ctrl-esc shortcut, which is a
>  mostly non-standard shortcut, but somehow makes sense in this context
>  anyway.  (Hey, it beats alt-F4, right?...there's no logic there that I
>  can see)  In other news, after looking it up, it turns out that
>  ctrl-esc used to be used to reveal the task manager in Windows,
>  allowing one to terminate running programs (semantically aligned with
>  our use here).  Oddly, it has since been remapped to invoke the
>  Windows start menu, with opposite semantics.  This despite the fact
>  that many PC keyboards even have a Windows key which does this anyway.
>   In any case, I support our interpretation of ctrl-esc and think it
>  serves the purposes without need for redundancy.

Cool.

>  In general, I would say that it's silly to use basic shortcuts for
>  actions that have a dedicated button on the XO (rotate, frame), which
>  means in general I approve of making alt-f and alt-r more "complex"
>  for emulator users.  On the other hand, if we do have a goal of making
>  Sugar portable to other hardware, we can't make these assumptions as
>  easily.  Is it possible to define the shortcuts in a dynamic way,
>  based upon some settings which determine what type of platform we are
>  running on/in?

I'm a bit worried by having different shortcuts depending on the
machine. If we could find acceptable shortcuts for those (hopefully
few) shortcuts that need to be global that were effective everywhere,
that would be awesome.

>  My only other comment applies to the comment itself, which I feel is
>  slightly presumptuous.  I would cut off the stuff after the comma, and
>  leave it at that.  Who knows, maybe kids in the field will install
>  Fedora and emulate Sugar themselves!

;)

Thanks,

Tomeu


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