[sugar] Sugar\Windows won't ship

Tomeu Vizoso tomeu at tomeuvizoso.net
Mon Apr 28 05:04:03 EDT 2008


On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 9:59 AM, John Gilmore <gnu at toad.com> wrote:
> > I'll say that the impression that I have received as an outsider is that
>  > the people working on Sugar have not at all been interested in
>  > compatibility with normal linux software.
>
>  It's more accurate to say that while they are somewhat interested in
>  that as an abstract idea, they are much more interested in making
>  their interface whizzier, which is fun, and in rewriting the most
>  obviously braindead parts of the Journal/Datastore, which staves off
>  programmer and end-user insanity.  (I'm paraphrasing drastically, from
>  having watched a bit of their goal-setting for the next release from
>  afar.)

All this sarcasm only makes things even muddier. Please raise your
concerns in a clearer way.

>  If someone came along with clean patches to make Sugar work better
>  with normal Linux/Unix software, I think they'd accept them.  (Some
>  patches to Gnome, KDE, and other window managers are also going to be
>  needed, at least if Sugar apps want to show their current SVG icons;
>  no other window manager supports drawing SVG icons.)

Yes.

>  If the community waited around til the two? three?-person Sugar team
>  got around to implementing these features itself, they might have to
>  wait til 2010 or so.

Maybe not so long. But please send the patches anyway.

[...]
>  That has been
>  patched, but just barely; the API still comes with terrible
>  assumptions like "of course the application will make a copy of every
>  file it touches".

This is plain false. Where did you get that idea?

Thanks,

Tomeu


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