[sugar] Rebe

[Yoshiki Ohshima]

  One thing I forgot to say was that we would like to store the .pr
file or equivalent of it into the standard file store mechanism of XO.
Once the mechanism works and we can try, it is fairly easy to change
the file format and attach necessary meta data.  indivisual objects,
and projects can (will) play nicely there.

-- Yoshiki

At Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:35:55 -0700,
Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
> 
>   Eben,
> 
> > I think the biggest point to be made here is an argument for a "document" or "object" of sorts.  Etoys definitely seems
> > to have most of the types of interaction and media embedding solutions I believe Rebecca and I both want, but (as far as
> > I know, though I admittedly don't know that much) it does so in an all encompassing environment.  What we really need is
> > a lightweight format that lets one pass around these "scratchpads" or "collages" as objects, so the teacher can create a
> > file, pass it out as homework, etc.  I could be very wrong in my assumptions, though, so please correct me where I am.
> >  I see lots of potential for Etoys, and I'd like to better understand how it integrates with Sugar now, and how we can
> > push it in the most effective direction.
> 
>   Currently, for historical reasons, an EToys "project" is saved into
> a file (relatively small, but can be big if you use a lot of media)
> called a project file or (".pr" file).  The file can be passed around:
> If the user type an URL for a .pr file into XO's browser, it fetches
> the file from the server and launch Etoys with it.  In short, you can
> just think that a .pr file is a document file for the Etoys
> application.
> 
>   We do have a higher-level document format (document formats, to be
> precise) and thinking to migrate that.
> 
>   Also, we are almost ready to merge the drag-and-drop code that lets
> the user to drag an Etoys object onto the frame, and paste it into
> Write and other activities (and vice versa).  This drag-and-drop code
> lets the user copy and paste text as well.
> 
> -- Yoshiki
> 
> > On 6/21/07, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de> wrote:
> > 
> >     Indeed, "scratchpad" describes Etoys pretty precisely ;)
> >    
> >     You can draw, write (even with multi-column text layout flowing
> >     around abjects), and of course calculate.
> >    
> >     It's not just "type anywhere and a curve pops up", although in fact
> >     such an extension exists (but not included in the OLPC Etoys
> >     version): called MathMorphs and MorphicWrappers done by the
> >     Argentinian Squeak community a couple years ago:
> >              http://www.dm.uba.ar/MathMorphs/
> >    
> >     and updated to work in recent Squeak releases
> >    
> >             http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/5855
> >    
> >     If there is enough interest in this (and I agree it's a great
> >     environment for exploring Math) we might try to find someone porting
> >     it to the OLPC version. Or maybe it just works if installed, I
> >     haven't tried (unfortunately our plates are still full with lower-
> >     level stuff).
> > 
> >     - Bert -
> >    
> >     On Jun 21, 2007, at 22:01 , Eben Eliason wrote:
> >    
> >     > Rebecca -
> >     >
> >     > This sounds similar to some of my ideas for "Collage"...allowing
> >     > combinations of text, drawing, image, and other media formats in a
> >     > freeform canvas.  The response there seemed that Etoys was, in many
> >     > ways, already providing such a thing.  I think this is a really
> >     > interesting area though, and the potential to be able to send
> >     > multimedia documents around, specifically in an educational
> >     > environment, is huge. Do you have more thoughts on specifically how
> >     > this could be distinguished from Etoys?
> >     >
> >     > Additionally, there is the Sophie project, but I'm not that
> >     > familiar with it or how far along they've come with the project on
> >     > the XO.
> >     >
> >     > - Eben
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > On 6/21/07, Rebecca Gettys <rebecca.gettys at comcast.net > wrote:
> >     > Hello all,
> >     > I had an idea while playing witha green machine...this may be a little
> >     > late, I don't know. What if ther was some sort of "scratchpad"
> >     > activity,
> >     > not draw, or write,or calculator but a kind fusion of all three.
> >     > mathimatical equasions could be typed out and then they could solve
> >     > with
> >     > typing and or drawing for their work, and they could write guides and
> >     > picture books and such with this activity as well. Is this in
> >     > possible/in the plans/something similar is being made???
> >     > ~Rebecca Gettys
> >     >
> > 
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