<div dir="ltr"><div><div>You are taking my remarks a bit out of context, although it is hard for me to tiptoe around explaining things while trying not to insult anyone.<br><br></div>From the schoolserver perspective, schoolservers as originally implemented were meant to be an all-in-one system. They provide DHCP for the laptops, act as the Internet gateway, provide anti-theft & backup services, etc.<br><br></div><div>Sugar & XOs have hardcoded logic expecting the schoolserver to be called "schoolserver". Schoolservers are also expected to have certain hardcoded IP addresses in case an XO runs into anti-theft problems, etc.<br></div><div><br></div><div>But in larger networks/school districts, I have seen schoolservers installed into networks where they are not allowed to control DHCP. They often were not the Internet gateway, and local policies might not allow them to be called "schoolserver". Occasionally the schoolserver isn't even in the same building as the XOs, and may be on a completely different subnet.<br><br></div><div>This is a whole concept I once called "Sugar for the Enterprise {school district}" but I don't know if that is worth pursuing at this time.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>XSCE is interesting in that it supports things like Internet-in-a-box which are not XO specific. And from what I've seen, the XSCE community may in some ways be more active than the Sugar community.<br><br></div><div>But it is unclear to me what features the XSCE community is implementing to support deployments other than those they are directly involved with, or what the feedback loop is there.<br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Adam Holt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:holt@laptop.org" target="_blank">holt@laptop.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Can someone further explain Sam Greenfeld's suggestion below from <a href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2015-March/017279.html" target="_blank">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2015-March/017279.html</a> ? No obligation, but if there are common requests missing from XSCE & similar, let's understand them:<br><br><div style="margin-left:40px">The XO/Sugar/Schoolserver combination was originally
promoted as a complete solution which could be used independently
without anything else.<br><br>But in practice, there is a
need to integrate with other solutions. Sugar may be a great
educational environment but there is a need to tie it into existing
schools and curriculums. OLPC had educators on staff looking into this
problem, but I don't think we have that luxury.<br><br>As an
example, the same kludge hacks kept being made over and over to
integrate Sugar & XOs into environments where the schoolserver might
not control the network, proxy authentication/802.1x networks were
used, etc. For some reason this functionality never made it upstream.</div></div>
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