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<DIV>the rj45 passthrough connectors referenced in the immediately preceding
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=georgejhunt@gmail.com
href="mailto:georgejhunt@gmail.com">George Hunt</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 04, 2014 8:06 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=xsce-devel@googlegroups.com
href="mailto:xsce-devel@googlegroups.com">xsce-devel</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=server-devel@lists.laptop.org
href="mailto:server-devel@lists.laptop.org">XS Devel</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [XSCE] Re: Cubox Solidrun Prototype
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<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Tim Moody <SPAN
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<DIV>I ordered 3 of these and some passthrough usb 2.0 connectors for good
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<DIV>This thread has talked about enclosures, disks, batteries. Which did you
buy 3 of? </DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=jon.nettleton@gmail.com
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 04, 2014 12:15 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=xsce-devel@googlegroups.com
href="mailto:xsce-devel@googlegroups.com" target=_blank>xsce-devel</A> </DIV>
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href="mailto:georgejhunt@gmail.com" target=_blank>George Hunt</A> ; <A
title=server-devel@lists.laptop.org
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<DIV dir=ltr>Those and some sheet metal screws or pop rivets look about
perfect to me.</DIV>
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<DIV><A
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href="http://www.markertek.com/Connectors-Adapters/Data-Connectors-Adapters/RJ45-CAT5-and-CAT6-Connectors/Switchcraft-Corporation/EHRJ45P5E.xhtml"
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or someplace else to find a cat5e case mountable receptacle.</DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=tim@timmoody.com href="mailto:tim@timmoody.com"
target=_blank>Tim Moody</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 04, 2014 11:50 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=georgejhunt@gmail.com
href="mailto:georgejhunt@gmail.com" target=_blank>George Hunt</A> ; <A
title=jon.nettleton@gmail.com href="mailto:jon.nettleton@gmail.com"
target=_blank>Jon Nettleton</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=server-devel@lists.laptop.org
href="mailto:server-devel@lists.laptop.org" target=_blank>XS Devel</A> ; <A
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [XSCE] Re: Cubox Solidrun Prototype
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<DIV>My first question is are we trying to run off AC or 12V DC. If
the latter, do we need a 12V connector and wires to split for the cubox and
the drive?</DIV>
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<DIV>I was also assuming we would use a conventional 2.5” sata drive with a
sata to esata connector cable.</DIV>
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<DIV>My custom case at home brings motherboard usb to an external connector
and I’m guessing that ..231 does the same. It would be nice if there
were an rj45 connector on the chassis that could pass through the ethernet
from the cubox.</DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=georgejhunt@gmail.com
href="mailto:georgejhunt@gmail.com" target=_blank>George Hunt</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 04, 2014 10:44 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=jon.nettleton@gmail.com
href="mailto:jon.nettleton@gmail.com" target=_blank>Jon Nettleton</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=tim@timmoody.com href="mailto:tim@timmoody.com"
target=_blank>Tim Moody</A> ; <A title=server-devel@lists.laptop.org
href="mailto:server-devel@lists.laptop.org" target=_blank>XS Devel</A> ; <A
title=xsce-devel@googlegroups.com href="mailto:xsce-devel@googlegroups.com"
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<DIV dir=ltr>My experience tells me that connectors are the weak link in
most systems. So I'm not excited about a connector that is part of the
essential data path, exiting the enclosure and exposed to being
bumped/damaged.
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<DIV>Jon, I'd really like to start working on your kernel, and getting it to
play nicely with the XSCE. Is that possible? soon?</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>I figured we just put the cubox at the back of the case for
now and loop the esata cable back around into the box to hook up the
drive. Is there any reason to even worry about making the hdmi cable
available? In the back of my head I do have a dream where the XSCE
could sit attached to a monitor/projector for teaching materials, but that
seems far enough out not to worry about it.
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<DIV>What does everyone else think? You guys obviously have more "in
the field" experience than myself. Those sorts of cases just seemed
like a relatively cheap solution to a problem that was brought up.</DIV>
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<DIV>I did talk with Rabeeh about the cooling for the i4pro and he said
the external case didn't need any sort of special cooling it just radiates
as is and should be fine completely enclosed. There is actually a
team that is building an i4pro into their RC surveillance plane :-)
My i4pro should be here this coming week and I can box it up, stress test
it, and monitor thermals from the on-board sensor as well as my IR
thermometer to make sure things look reasonable.</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>What's the best strategy long term? The cubox has all its
connectors on one face. Most of these need to be available to the
outside. We can open the cubox and solder a esata connector that comes
out the back. Picture is at <A
href="http://imx.solid-run.com/wiki/index.php?title=CuBox-i_Hardware"
target=_blank>http://imx.solid-run.com/wiki/index.php?title=CuBox-i_Hardware</A>.
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<DIV>Or we can try to project the essential stuff from the cubox mounted
internally, and not really accessible from the outside. The second
item ending in 231 looks like it has pigtails to project the usb to the
outside. We'd need to do the same for the internal ethernet
adapter. This approach still leaves the hdmi, and console usb that might
need to be available occasionally.</DIV>
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<DIV>So maybe in the long run, we need something intermediate between
the two Jon has suggested, so that when it is necessary, we can get a
hand into the box to make insert the hdmi or console cables. </DIV>
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<DIV>I'm in favor with going with number ..231 this time around.</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Well from taking some basic measurements I was thinking
we could pack a 2.5" sata drive and connector along with the cubox
into a 5.25 external case like this <A
href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817145090"
target=_blank>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817145090</A>
That with a few dremel modifications and some soldering I think it
would make a nice compact holder. Given the time constraints
that is probably not happening. I did look around and found this
which is more than enough space to do whatever is needed without much
more cost, <A
href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163231"
target=_blank>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163231</A>
It also has excellent ventilation.
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<DIV>Of course these are just suggestions to help create a more
self-contained product right now.</DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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