<div dir="ltr">James, et al,<div><br></div><div>Monitoring the transient voltage minimums, running on battery, not charging, with 2 ethernet dongles as additional load I get the following in my testing of WD external "my passport" drive:</div>
<div><br></div><div>XO4 -- voltage droops to 4.51 -- spins up reliably</div><div>XO1.75 -- voltage droops to 4.56 -- spins up reliably</div><div>XO1.5 -- voltage droops to 3.97 -- does not spin up </div><div><br></div><div>
On the XO1.5, when I used external powered hub, idle voltage was 5.2, which drooped to 4.97 during spin up.</div><div><br></div><div>Then I used my newly purchased lab power supply to try to find the threshold for the decision to spin up. When I adjusted it to 4.3, and my meter registered a transient minimum of 3.96, it failed to spin up. When I set the PS to 4.35, and the droop went down to 3.98, the drive spun up. I judge that the threshold is pretty close to 4.0v.</div>
<div><br></div><div>George</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 9:14 PM, James Cameron <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:quozl@laptop.org" target="_blank">quozl@laptop.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">What did the bus voltage do during these events?<br>
<br>
A HD would probably decide not to spin up if the bus voltage was out<br>
of spec.<br>
<div><div class="h5"><br>
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 02:00:31PM -0400, George Hunt wrote:<br>
> Hi all,<br>
><br>
> Following James' suggestion, I put my fluke 186 multimeter in current mode on<br>
> the USB cable between the power source and the WD hard disk. I was able to<br>
> capture a 1A current spike, and a ~ 3 second current transient of about 800mA<br>
> during spin up. The idling current for the hard disk, while spinning, was<br>
> 230mA.<br>
><br>
> The XO4, (sku306) did not reliably spin up the HD. In particular this failure<br>
> was almost 100% when the 430mA load of the ethernet dongle, and MR3020 wifi<br>
> access point was hanging on the other USB port.<br>
><br>
> I put the hard drive and wifi accessories on a powered "Plugable" model USB2HUB<br>
> AG7, which has an adapter rated for 3A, and experienced no failures, during<br>
> many startups.<br>
><br>
> I am concluding that an external hard disk requires a powered USB hub.<br>
><br>
> Other interesting measurements: <br>
><br>
> • The MR3020 wifi unit had maximum current spikes of 530mA with average<br>
> current of 175mA. <br>
> • The USB ethernet dongle had 230mA spikes with an average of 177mA and a<br>
> minimum of 172mA<br>
><br>
><br>
> George<br>
<br>
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