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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In the Pacific Islands we have at least couple of recent
deployments. I have been helping in the Solomons with a 200 XO deployment
sponsored by a regional bank. They only received the shipment some weeks ago. In
Fiji a few months ago, Ian Thomson supervised a larger deployment with the
Ministry of Education and a regional university (USP). It seems that in both
cases, we have been shipped XO-1.5s with only 2GB installed with release 11.3.1.
I do not know the history of that.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>This is causing us a lot of headaches. The Journals become full
as there is less than 100MB free space out of the box. There are work arounds but
it’s less than optimal. We can delete Wikipedia-ES that gives us an extra
100MB, but then as we want to add our own favourite Activities that are not
included in the release, we end up with the same issue. It’s a problem
for children and teachers, even if they are taught to manage their Journals –
I imagine it would be disruptive in class.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The above is really not an issue for this particular list but it
is relevant because we would really like to experiment with XCSE, which
requires release 13.1.0 as the starting point. Now we see that we can’t
install 13.1.0 on the internal drive because the os image is too large (see
attached). We understand that if we want the XOs to be upgradable, we can increase
the internal memory but (a) it would take 100+ hours to do so on all the
several hundred XOs, and (b) we understand that the compatibility of cards can
be an issue, even within the same brand. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The option of installing it on an external SD card is
interesting, and I am going to try that. However, we want to add content
storage too – so we’ll need a 32GB or 64GB card. Would be
interested to know if anyone has tried with such a sized card. If we can do
that, and have the content stored on the same card, it would be the best
solution for us. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The reason we are so interested in the XSCE is because it means
the schools would not depend on a single non-XO machine for the school server.
We would want a solution where it’s easy to swap if something goes wrong.
These schools are very remote, and it will not possible to download large
amounts of data during installs etc, neither do they have sustainable technical
skills on hand. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>For these reasons the XSCE on a bootable external memory card is
the best strategy. As long as (a) we can use a 64GB card to include our content
storage and (b) that it will boot on any XO-1.5 2GB machine without any
preparation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>David Leeming<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Solomon Islands<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> David Leeming
[mailto:david@leeming-consulting.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 17 June 2013 8:58 p.m.<br>
<b>To:</b> 'George Hunt'; 'David Farning'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Jerry Vonau'; 'server-devel'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Server-devel] Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Still trying to set up my XO-1.5 2GB ready for XSCE, which as
per advice requires the 13.1.0 release as starting point. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I downloaded the 13.1.0 files as per<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/13.1.0#XO-1.5">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/13.1.0#XO-1.5</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>31036o1.zd<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>31036o1.zd.zsp.fs1.zip<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Copied to a newly formatted 1GB USB stick, and checked the zd
file md5sum matched<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Renamed the zip to fs1.zip<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Tried it:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Fails as per attached. Renaming the fs1.zip as fs.zip makes no
difference.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Tried on a 2GB stick, also reformatted. No luck. Firmware seems
OK.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Something I am missing about the 2GB version of the XO-1.5 ???<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>David Leeming<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> George Hunt [mailto:georgejhunt@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 14 June 2013 8:41 p.m.<br>
<b>To:</b> David Farning<br>
<b>Cc:</b> David Leeming; Jerry Vonau; server-devel<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Server-devel] Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>There were kernel problems with 11.3.1 which kept us from
getting the XO-1.5 to become an XSCE. It was only with the 13.1.0
release, that we were able to get the network adapters to work properly after a
reboot.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>So I'm afraid that everyone will save a lot of time, and
pain, in the long run, if the install procedure is followed exactly. (<a
href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Holt/XS_Community_Edition/0.3/Installing">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Holt/XS_Community_Edition/0.3/Installing</a>)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>We were not able to test adequately the offline install for
subsequent XSCE installations to have it be part of the 0.3 release. But for
situations where internet access is slow, and expensive, it is possible to use
a USB stick to transfer the rpm packages contained in the /var/yum/cache from
the first XSCE to the next one, and greatly speed up the install process. (And
if you leave a USB stick in the XSCE, during the first install, it is our
intention, and design, that the /var/yum/cache will be copied to that USB stick
during the install process on that first machine -- and then used automatically
on a subsequent install)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>George<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:31 PM, David Farning <<a
href="mailto:dfarning@activitycentral.com" target="_blank">dfarning@activitycentral.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Hmm, that is an interesting point that we kind of took for
granted.<br>
<br>
Our goal with the 'reference' hardware and software is to provide a<br>
known set of stuff which 'just works.' While other hardware, software,<br>
and features might work... they have not been tested.<br>
<br>
Maybe george or jerry have a good answer for you.<br>
<br>
At the risk of carbon dating myself... I grew up in the era where my<br>
nerdy friends and I drooled over the pages of 'Computer Shopper' for a<br>
9.6 kbit/s modem. Auto Resume for stalled downloads was a life saver:)<br>
<br>
Now, for simplicity, our testing involves reflashing everything to get<br>
back to a known state. As you point out, that is probably not the best<br>
assumption for low bandwidth areas.<br>
<br>
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:36 PM, David Leeming<br>
<<a href="mailto:david@leeming-consulting.com">david@leeming-consulting.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> Sorry just realised the XO is only installed with 11.3.1 (os855)<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> However, is it still possible to work around? It’s not easy or cheap
to<br>
> download the os file.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> David<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> From: David Leeming [mailto:<a href="mailto:david@leeming-consulting.com">david@leeming-consulting.com</a>]<br>
> Sent: Friday, 14 June 2013 12:28 p.m.<br>
> To: 'server-devel'<br>
> Subject: Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Testing XSCE 3 on XO 1.5 2GB os855<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> <a
href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Holt/XS_Community_Edition/0.3/Installing"
target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Holt/XS_Community_Edition/0.3/Installing</a><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> I get as far as step 13, after the SD card (I am testing with an 8GB card)<br>
> successfully configures.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> When I enter “bootstrap-xo” is replies<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Not an XO please run ‘xs-config’<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Tried to do that but<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> xs-config: command not found<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> David Leeming<br>
><br>
> Solomon Islands<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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<span class=hoenzb>--</span><br>
<span class=hoenzb>David Farning</span><br>
<span class=hoenzb>Activity Central: <a href="http://www.activitycentral.com"
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