The concerns I was told about have nothing to do with anything technical.<br><br>They are more along the lines of supporting XS users. If someone wants to install XS in a VM, there is often a presumption that we are experts in their virtual server software and how it is setup, even if they want to install a XS server for a large school in a tiny, non-preallocated image for VMware Player on a teacher's ancient Windows laptop. (For the record, this is probably not a good idea.)<br>
<br>Deployments tend to vary widely in technical expertise. It is much easier for us to figure out hardware requirements without virtualization and say "install on this" than to take a stab at what the minimal virtual environment needed is for any given virtualization platform, and provide a set of instructions on how to setup and debug that as well.<br>
<br>For demonstration and test purposes virtualization may work. Having administered a small VMware vCenter farm at my last employer, I am not
criticizing you for making the image.<br><br>But until I'm told otherwise or someone corrects my misunderstanding, virtual images are not something OLPC wants to support at this time for deployments. I am just noting this for the record in case someone stumbles upon this email thread, and thinks about using a virtualized image for their school.<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Sameer Verma <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sverma@sfsu.edu" target="_blank">sverma@sfsu.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Samuel Greenfeld <<a href="mailto:greenfeld@laptop.org" target="_blank">greenfeld@laptop.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> At least historically, I have been told that OLPC does not support the XS in<br>
> virtual environments.<br>
><br>
> This does not mean it is not possible; but officially OLPC may not be able<br>
> to support such VMs.<br>
><br>
> I vaguely recall the reasons for this; but as it has been a while, I will<br>
> leave the official explanation to someone else.<br>
><br>
><br>
<br>
</div>I did try to install XS 0.6 in VM, but I quickly gave up because of<br>
the lanbonding stuff. I'm not even sure if it could be done, but<br>
nevertheless I gave up. With XS 0.7's simpler networking options<br>
(eth0, eth1) its a lot easier to run this server in VM.<br>
<br>
We are planning on some training sessions for teachers in Jamaica over<br>
the summer, and the main effort will focus on Moodle. Moodle is used<br>
extensively at Univ. of the West Indies (<a href="http://ourvle.mona.uwi.edu/" target="_blank">http://ourvle.mona.uwi.edu/</a>)<br>
and at e-Learning Jamaica (<a href="http://www.e-ljam.net/moodle/" target="_blank">http://www.e-ljam.net/moodle/</a>) Most of the<br>
people in the Jamaica team are everyday users of Moodle. SF State also<br>
runs Moodle extensively. So Moodle is low-hanging fruit for us. The<br>
ability to run a local server in VM makes it a lot easier at training<br>
sessions where a good Internet connection may be absent. That's one of<br>
the motivations for creating this VM.<br>
<br>
As for official support business, I haven't seen much for Moodle (who<br>
uses Moodle?), so I hope that will improve (hint, hint).<br>
<br>
cheers,<br>
Sameer<br>
<div><div><br>
> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Sameer Verma <<a href="mailto:sverma@sfsu.edu" target="_blank">sverma@sfsu.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I've uploaded a copy of a XS 0.7 VM to dev.l.o Details are at<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://schoolserver.wordpress.com/2012/05/01/school-server-holodeck-style/" target="_blank">https://schoolserver.wordpress.com/2012/05/01/school-server-holodeck-style/</a><br>
>><br>
>> Try it out!<br>
>><br>
>> cheers,<br>
>> Sameer<br>
>> --<br>
>> Sameer Verma, Ph.D.<br>
>> Professor, Information Systems<br>
>> San Francisco State University<br>
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>> <a href="http://olpcsf.org/" target="_blank">http://olpcsf.org/</a><br>
>> <a href="http://olpcjamaica.org.jm/" target="_blank">http://olpcjamaica.org.jm/</a><br>
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