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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks Tabitha,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I realise I should be clearer about what I am asking. I
understand the Moodle context-based administration. It is rather the effects of
multiple course membership on the presence service when split by course, which
I am uncertain about. Let’s say user A is a member of course 1 and course
3. User B is a user of course 2 and course 3. Does that mean that user B will
be able to “see” all the members of course 1 as well as user A? I
don’t see evidence of that in our deployment but I am just checking in
case this could cause issues with the presence service.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>We are using low-power (and low-RAM </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>L</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>) servers
due to our dependence on solar power. So we need to make it work most
efficiently and as I understand it, that is best achieved with small user groups
segregated using the presence service.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Regarding the other matter; logging on as Administrator is
according to “XS Techniques and Configuration”” a non
standard task “at your own risk”. I am trying to use standard
recommended procedures, which can be safely replicated by the local trainees, using
the first XO registered – which is a partial administrator (it can create
course creators, but cannot delete courses). If I create a course creator with
that initial XO, they do not have “turn editing on” appearing which
means that they cannot (for instance) create global links to public folders on
the front page – even if they are Front Page course creators too. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>My question in regard to this issue is whether what I am
observing is NOT what I should be seeing, and there is a problem with my
system, or whether your inference is what I should be noting in that you have
to actually log on as the site administrator to create a full replica of the “first
XO”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>David Leeming<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> tabitha.mail@gmail.com
[mailto:tabitha.mail@gmail.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tabitha Roder<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 28 July 2010 10:02 p.m.<br>
<b>To:</b> David Leeming; server-devel@lists.laptop.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fwd: [Server-devel] Turn Editing On missing and joining
multiple courses]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>From: "David Leeming" <<a
href="mailto:david@leeming-consulting.com">david@leeming-consulting.com</a>><br>
To: "'XS Devel'" <<a
href="mailto:server-devel@lists.laptop.org">server-devel@lists.laptop.org</a>><br>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:52:08 +1000<br>
Subject: [Server-devel] Turn Editing On missing and joining multiple
courses<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>In
our PNG deployment and elsewhere I am finding with Moodle that when the initial
administrator XO creates additional course creators, the “Turn Editing
On” button does not appear on the new Course Creator XOs, although you
can see all the site admin functions. For example, I have used Admin 1 XO (the
first one to register) to make Admin 2 XO a system course creator and a front
page course creator. But no “Turn Editing On” appears. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I don't know exactly the role setup for Moodle on XS, but it
may be that they have slightly different roles; do they appear at the same
level in "Users" - "permissions" - "assign system
roles"?<br>
I just tested - I am logged in as site "administrator" (I mean Moodle
role "administrator" at system level) on one computer and have just
assigned another XO as "course creator" at system level. The new
system course creator XO does have a turn editing on button.<br>
Tested adding another XO as a front page course creator and this XO does not
get a turn editing on button. I then tested assigning the XO as a front page
teacher and now they do get the turn editing on button. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Secondly,
we have set up courses for each of six classes and are joining the 250 students
and their teachers to them as “teachers” and
“students”. The teachers have been made “Front Page
teachers” but not been given any system roles (otherwise they appear in
all the courses). We want to allow teachers to collaborate between each other
as well, so I am thinking of creating a “Teachers” course. I have
not enough experience with Moodle to know what to expect – will there be
any “cross over” issues (the best way I can describe it) if
teachers A and B are members of the Grade 3A and 4B courses respectively, and
then also both as members of “Teachers”.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>The PNG teachers can be in a course called teachers and
assigned as any role you want. I think the front page thing might be what is
confusing things for PNG. Moodle is hierarchical - system roles beat course
roles which beat resource/activity object roles. Moodle considers the front
page to be a course, so system role would beat it. <br>
PNG Teachers are not system level teachers so you can make them students in a
course. Who is the teacher role assigned to for the teacher course? The
principal maybe? <br>
Continuing this train of thought - it is perfectly okay to make a student a
teacher of a course. e.g. You can have a year 6 student the teacher of the year
4 maths course if you want. Just don't do it at system level, stick to course
level. <br>
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I would not set system level roles for anyone except the person(s) who will
adminstrate Moodle after you leave. Two people is good in case one person
leaves. <br>
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Tabitha<o:p></o:p></p>
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