I suggest this discussion be taken to iaep or some other non-technical list where educational issues are discussed. When there, we can ask questions about the widespread objectification of and violence against women in visual pornography and the educational goals it serves. Also the relative magnitude of that compared with other traffic on the net as a whole, and its effect (when unconstrained) on the ability of a school to deliver desired material. Are you a parent Henry?<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Henry Edward Hardy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hhardy01@gmail.com">hhardy01@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Dear friends,<br><br>I'm a bit disturbed when I hear people using the euphemism "filtering" for automated, computerized censorship. I understand there may be legislative or political mandates. However, we should never talk about this as though it is a good or desirable or acceptable thing.<br>
<br>I realize this may be seen as off topic from the merely technical discussion of how to implement computerized censorship, but when we calmly discuss technicalities of something which is obviously wrong without questioning it, then the discussion needs to be aired.<br>
<br>"Filtering" is what you do to the water in a fish tank. "Censorship" is when a state or quasi-state agency proscribes and limits access to certain classes of written material.<br><br>Here are a few tests we should apply to any such proposed system.<br>
<br>Does it allow access to information about "Romeo and Juliet"? (Underage sex, gang-oriented violence, suicide, murder)<br><br>Does it allow access to "Huckleberry Finn" (Slavery, frequent use of the word "nigger")<br>
<br>Does it allow access to "The Catcher in the Rye" (Use of "fuck", blasphemy, drinking, smoking, lying, promiscuity, implied pederasty)<br><br>Does it allow access to "Heather has Two Mommies" (Lesbianism)<br>
<br>Does it allow access to "Our Bodies, Ourselves" (Information about human health, sex and sexuality)<br><br>Does it allow access to "Slaughterhouse-Five" (Genocide, strategic bombing, sex)<br><br>Does it allow access to "Of Mice and Men" (Retardation, sex, rape, murder)<br>
<br>Does it allow access to "The Handmaid's Tale" (Sexual roles, patriarchy, racism, and theocracy)<br><br>Does it allow access to "The Kite Runner" (Homosexuality, rape)<br><br>Does it allow access to "His Dark Materials" (Anti-state, anti-catholic, magic and witchcraft)<br>
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Does it allow access to "One Hundred Years of Solitude" (Alchemy, murder, debauchery)<br><br>Does it allow access to "1984" (Torture, illicit sex, anti-state and anti-party politics)<br><br>Does it allow access to "Canterbury Tales" (Promiscuity, anti-clericalism)<br>
<br>Does it allow access to "The Decameron" (Anti-state, anti-Catholic and general ribaldry, such as the Third Day, Tenth Story, "How to put the Devil in Hell")<br><br>And in terms of websites particularly,<br>
<br>RateMyTeachers.com<br><br>Peacefire.org<br><br>Facebook<br><br>Myspace<br><br>Orkut<br><br>Google<br><br>YouTube<br><br>Sites which criticize the ruling party or government.<br>
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Sites which criticize or parody the predominant religion.<br><br>Blogs, in general<br><br>And classes of internet services such as<br><br>Usenet<br><br>FSP<br><br>Peer-to-peer file-sharing services such as Bittorrent, EMule, Gnutella<br>
<br>In general, censorship is bad and morally wrong; and automated, computerized censorship especially so; and we should never refer to it by a purpose-made and innocuous-sounding term like "filtering" or treat it as though it is morally or pedagogically acceptable.<br>
<br>IMHO,<br><br>Henry<br><br>"<span><span style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: normal;">What progress we are making. In the Middle Ages they would have burned me. Now they are content with burning my books.</span></span></span>"<br>
<br>--Sigmund Freud, 1933<br><br>also posted to my blog at <a href="http://scanlyze.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://scanlyze.wordpress.com/</a><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Anna <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aschoolf@gmail.com" target="_blank">aschoolf@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Reuben K. Caron <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:reuben@laptop.org" target="_blank">reuben@laptop.org</a>></span> wrote:
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A free and simple solution, while not bullet proof (no content filter
is that I am aware), is Open DNS. They are even CIPA compliant in the
US: <a href="http://www.opendns.com/solutions/k12/" target="_blank">http://www.opendns.com/solutions/k12/</a><br>
</div></blockquote></div><div><br>That's what I set up for our pilot school, which was very easy as the XS's DSL connection has a static IP. OpenDNS provides different filtering options, which you can customize as necessary. Being in the US, CIPA compliance is absolutely vital to retain certain federal funding, and OpenDNS was the quickest and easiest way to accomplish that. Dansguardian can be CIPA compliant, but there are other steps involved and I was wary of unintentionally running afoul of the rules. <a href="http://dansguardian.org/?page=faq#15" target="_blank">http://dansguardian.org/?page=faq#15</a> Not to mention Dansguardian consumes server resources. OpenDNS doesn't use any server resources and you can easily configure the filtering to be CIPA compliant. <a href="http://www.opendns.com/solutions/k12/cipa/" target="_blank">http://www.opendns.com/solutions/k12/cipa/</a><br>
<br>As far as limiting the internet connection to authorized XOs, that's an issue we're probably going to run into at some point once we broaden the XS deployment. So far at the pilot school, the staff members connect to the internet with their personal laptops and iPhones, but I haven't really heard any complaints of abuse yet.<br>
<br>If your deployment is relatively small, it should be easy enough to add the hardware addresses of the trusted XOs to dhcpd.conf and disallow unknown machines (or play pranks on them as suggested at <a href="http://www.ex-parrot.com/%7Epete/upside-down-ternet.html" target="_blank">http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html</a>).<br>
<br>Anna Schoolfield<br>Birmingham<br></div></div>
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