<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV><DIV>On 27 Aug 2008, at 10:21 AM, Martin Langhoff wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Jeff <<A href="mailto:jeff@wildcoast.com">jeff@wildcoast.com</A>> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Why? What's wrong with writing the image to a DVD?</DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Don't worry about the CD :-) <BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>But I do. I'm worried that you may be applying first world standards and expect the deployment sites to run off and download, oh for example, Java, GCC, and a bunch of other essential tools, whereas the install distro should include them as a matter of course.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>So I'm asking again: why a single CD? This isn't Ubuntu shipping off a million copies of the latest distro for free, so why the self-imposed minimalist constraint? </DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">about 30 to 50% of the stuff that pungi</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">puts there is not needed. I'm trying to shed it so we can fit more</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">stuff we care about - content as you point out.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>As you say, the graphical installer, X, and a lot of other goodness is taking up space.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>A minimalist install /option/ is a Good Thing, but take the very recent XO deployment at Kliptown for example: because of a shortage of PCs they have already turned the XS into a workstation.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Same thing we do with the servers in our computer labs. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Please consider this a bit more carefully.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Excellent. Welcome to the list!</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>TYVM. </DIV><DIV><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Before I bark up the wrong tree, can someone please point me at the server plan/roadmap?</DIV><DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>--</DIV><DIV>Jeff Brown</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Cell: 074-101 5170 / Fax: 086-532 3508</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Masimanyane Mussel Rehabilitation and</DIV><DIV>Masande Nursery ~ Nutritional Projects</DIV><DIV>C O F F E E B A Y ~ W I L D C O A S T</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV>++</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Website: <A href="http://www.wildcoast.com">www.wildcoast.com</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Blog: <A href="http://www.wildcoast.com/jeff">www.wildcoast.com/jeff</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">8< -- </DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Do not believe in miracles -- rely on them.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV></DIV></SPAN><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV><BR></BODY></HTML>