<div dir="ltr">Hi Tarun! <br>Thanks for the great work you are doing!<br><br>See comments below.<br><br clear="all">Saludos, <br>Pablo Flores<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Tarun Pondicherry <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tarunpondicherry@gmail.com">tarunpondicherry@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi Pablo,<br>
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I tried to address most of these concerns in the updated version. Please let me know if I got the attempted fixes right.</blockquote><div><br>I'll try to take some time this afternoon to test the system. What I found with the previous version is that BrowseNew didn't change its homepage. I talked with Greg that it would be very simplifying for teachers and children to make BrowseNew go straight to <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog</a>, a page I will get some time to finish with the instructions to start to work. Would it be possible to change this?<br>
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I'm also thinking about how to configure the language. Currently, it detects if the Browser is es or en and bases its setting on that. We could also change it to force es not matter what. Which do you think is better?</blockquote>
<div>For us, both possibilities are good if they work well ;-)<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br>
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Another concern I have is that if testers login at the same time with the same username, it may break things. Is this something to worry about, or will the system be tested by one person at a time?</blockquote><div>Well, this may be a real problem working in a real school. The normal workflow is that the teacher proposes something to work in and blog about it, then children start to work altogether.... what problems may happen?<br>
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Thanks,<br><font color="#888888">
Tarun</font><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
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On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 5:34 AM, Tarun Pondicherry <<a href="mailto:tarunpondicherry@gmail.com" target="_blank">tarunpondicherry@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:tarunpondicherry@gmail.com" target="_blank">tarunpondicherry@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
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Hi,<br>
<br>
*Creating a new blog<br>
<br>
*<br>
<br>
* The login page isn't in spanish<br>
<br>
The UI can be switched to Spanish easily, this will be done in the<br>
next update after we get abiword working.<br>
<br>
Great!<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
* I'm not sure how to manage users with EduBlog.... I think we<br>
<br>
should start a wiki page to start documenting (and discussing<br>
it). Volunteers? :-)<br>
<br>
I'm not sure the best way either. There are many many options. I<br>
thought the easiest is to just do a bulk upload of all the<br>
students. We can also allow students to register themselves or an<br>
admin to enter all of them. Comments on which would be best would<br>
be really helpful. Students also should only have to login once.<br>
<br>
Yes, maybe the best way is making a registration form. Once the child is registered, it shouldn't be asked the user/password everytime, it should stay registered in the laptop.<br>
One important feature would be letting children use different registration systems, like OpenId... Having many user/password is very confusing for children and even more for teachers!<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
* In the "Adding a new OU blog" form, I can't access the<br>
"Manage<br>
<br>
Remote Blogs" button, it takes me to a page that says "Sorry,<br>
but you do not currently have permissions to do that<br>
([[oublog:manageremoteblogs]]) More information about<br>
this error<br>
<<a href="http://docs.moodle.org/en/error/moodle/nopermissions" target="_blank">http://docs.moodle.org/en/error/moodle/nopermissions</a>>". *<br>
<br>
I will look into this, but you need teacher not student login. If<br>
you are logged in as student, you would have to logout.<br>
<br>
It doesn't work logged in as teacher.<br>
<br>
Do teacher's and students share the same machine?<br>
<br>
Let's assume that teacher do their managing tasks (creating blogs, etc.) from their own laptops.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
* It would be better if some options could be hidden, like<br>
"Common<br>
module settings".<br>
<br>
This will be done in the next update. There is button to show all<br>
the advanced options at the bottom if needed.<br>
<br>
Ok.<br>
<br>
<br>
*New blog post*<br>
<br>
<br>
* From the moodle interface, I couldn't upload any picture. I<br>
could use the other interface<br>
(<a href="http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/mod/oublog/editpost.php?blog=2" target="_blank">http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/mod/oublog/editpost.php?blog=2</a>),<br>
but with this one I cannot select the blog to post to. *<br>
<br>
For this demo, there was only one blog. The jump to link at the<br>
top right was to be used to select other blogs. Perhaps it should<br>
be repositioned?<br>
<br>
Mmmh... students should select the blog in which they'll be working before starting to write the post... otherwise could lead to a lot of confussion in the class...<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
* I tried to upload a Write document, but I couldn't from<br>
any of<br>
<br>
the interfaces (am I doing right? I tried to upload the<br>
file as<br>
an image).<br>
<br>
Not implemented yet, hopefully this will work after we get abiword<br>
on the server.<br>
<br>
Ok. <br>
<br>
I also would like to summarize some points of how the daily<br>
work would be. Let's see...<br>
<br>
* First of all, the teacher will have to get a user and<br>
password<br>
for the system.<br>
* The teacher creates a new blog using the interface<br>
<a href="http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=2&section=0&return=0" target="_blank">http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=2&section=0&return=0</a><br>
<<a href="http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=2&section=0&return=0" target="_blank">http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=2&section=0&return=0</a>><br>
<<a href="http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=2&section=0&return=0" target="_blank">http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=2&section=0&return=0</a><br>
<<a href="http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=2&section=0&return=0" target="_blank">http://edublog.venango.org/test/EduBlog/moodle/course/modedit.php?add=oublog&type=&course=2&section=0&return=0</a>>><br>
* All of her children have to get a user and password.<br>
<br>
Yes, and it will be saved on the XO so only needs to be entered<br>
one time.<br>
<br>
Ok!<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
* Then, the teacher can propose some work to be done, for<br>
which<br>
<br>
children will have to make their posts to the blog. To do so,<br>
children will have to access to the blog page (the moodle<br>
one),<br>
and click on "New blog post".<br>
* As children submit their posts, the teacher will be able<br>
to see<br>
them in the blog page. Children will only see their own posts<br>
and the ones already approved by the teacher. Question:<br>
How can<br>
a child know if his post was approved?<br>
<br>
Hm, I did not think of this. We could automatically post a<br>
comment locally. What would you suggest? I'm not sure how<br>
teachers and students communicate on the XO.<br>
<br>
We discussed this issue time ago with some friends of a graphics design company that was studying how children interfaces should be. The conclusion we arrived to is that the best would be to remark the state of the post graphically on the blog. For instance, keeping in gray the posts that are still not approved. I don't know if it can be implemented easily.<br>
Teachers could also use the comments form to give feedback, although the most common way would be the straight talk in the class...<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
* The approved posts will go public, depending on the<br>
<br>
configuration: If there is a remote blog configured (blogspot<br>
for instance), they will appear there. If it's local only, it<br>
will be seen by others, depending on the visibility<br>
configuration of the blog.<br>
<br>
All agree with this?<br>
<br>
That looks to be all in accordance with what we are trying to<br>
implement.<br>
<br>
Hahaha, ok!<br>
<br>
I think the biggest problem we're facing at the moment, to let some teachers test thoughtfully the application is that we should allow them to post entries to their own blog, being able to upload pictures on them... which is not possible at the moment. As soon as we solve this (allowing pictures uploading from the moodle interface?), we will be able to get more feedback from teachers.<br>
<br>
One question: I'm working on the new home page for the blog, <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog" target="_blank">http://wiki.laptop.org/go/EduBlog</a>, isn't there any problem in putting the passwords there for the moment?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Pablo<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks a lot for your input.<br>
<br>
Tarun<br>
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