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<style>.hmmessage P{margin:0px;padding:0px}body.hmmessage{FONT-SIZE: 10pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma}</style>FYI (and please comment)<br>Stefan<br><br><blockquote><hr>Subject: RE: [Server-devel] Problems installing XS on new system for Uruguay<br>Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 07:50:30 -0400<br>From: gregmsmi@cisco.com<br>To: stefan_w_reitz@hotmail.com<br><br><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=unicode"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft SafeHTML"><style>.ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P{padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-top:0px;}.ExternalClass BODY.EC_hmmessage{font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;}</style><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="EC_703314711-06062008"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Hi Stefan,</font></span></div><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="EC_703314711-06062008"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"></font></span> </div><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="EC_703314711-06062008"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Do you mind sending this to the server list?</font></span></div><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="EC_703314711-06062008"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"></font></span> </div><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="EC_703314711-06062008"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">I'm sure they will be interested in this discussion. There's been some debate on how interactive the install should be and how much GUI should be available for it.</font></span></div><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="EC_703314711-06062008"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"></font></span> </div><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="EC_703314711-06062008"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Thanks for commenting and helping Tony!</font></span></div><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="EC_703314711-06062008"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"></font></span> </div><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="EC_703314711-06062008"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Thanks,</font></span></div><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="EC_703314711-06062008"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"></font></span> </div><div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="EC_703314711-06062008"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Greg S</font></span></div><br><div class="EC_OutlookMessageHeader" dir="ltr" align="left" lang="en-us"><hr><font face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> Stefan Reitz [mailto:stefan_w_reitz@hotmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 06, 2008 12:53 AM<br><b>To:</b> Tony Pearson<br><b>Cc:</b> Greg Smith (gregmsmi)<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Server-devel] Problems installing XS on new system for Uruguay<br></font><br></div><div></div><br>Tony,<br><br>I, too, was tempted to use a different underlying distribution. But as I didn't (and still don't) know how to port things like the presence service, I thought about how I can make the current XS setup do those two or three extra things I thought necessary.<br>The standard fedora live cd can do all I want (except for the XS specific features), but the XS installation is non-interactive, meaning it doesn't allow for my own partitioning scheme, or raid, or other things you usually determine during setup.<br>So the next logical step seems to me to make the decisions about partitioning and raid before the install and let the non-interactive setup routine take care of the installation.<br>This means you'd want the XS live cd with slightly changed setup parameters. But how do you tell the setup routine what you want? Here comes the kickstart file. You take the live cd files you find here: <a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Building_Software" target="_blank"><font color="blue" face="Tahoma"><u>http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Building_Software</u></font></a> and look into what the ks.cfg file says. You'll easily recognize that the statements there resemble what the XS turns out to be. Now you can either just edit the ks.cfg with a text editor to make the installation yield different results, or use revisor as a graphical tool (sort of like the interactive setup, but not really running an installation but only creating the setup configuration / kickstart file) to make a kickstart file.<br><br>Since I messed with this in early april, I have already forgotten some steps. So right now I am installing the fedora 9 live cd to an old laptop and hopefully I can give you some more detailed information soon.<br><br>I discourage trying to port all XS functionality to a different Distro all by yourself. Without the help of those who patched ejabberd and many others who made the XS a not-so-off-the-shelf product you will have a pretty hard time. At least partly because of a lack of readily available documentation and system description ....<br><br><br>Stefan<br><blockquote> <hr> To: stefan_w_reitz@hotmail.com<br>CC: gregmsmi@cisco.com<br>Subject: Fw: [Server-devel] Problems installing XS on new system for Uruguay<br>From: tpearson@us.ibm.com<br>Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:50:08 -0700<br><br><br><font face="sans-serif">Stefan,</font> <br><font face="sans-serif">Thanks for the advice. I will investigate 'dmraid' and discontinue the BIOS RAID approach.</font> <br><br><font face="sans-serif">Your 'spin your own distribution' suggestion is valid, the team is now exploring Debian versus Fedora as the base.</font> <br><br><font face="sans-serif">Thanks<br></font> <table> <tbody> <tr> <td bgcolor="#006699"><br></td> <td bgcolor="#006699"><br></td></tr> <tr> <td><img src="http://gfx1.hotmail.com/mail/w2/ltr/i_safe.gif"> </td> <td><font color="#0060a0" face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size="1"><b>Tony Pearson</b></font><font face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size="1"><br>Senior Storage Consultant, IBM System Storage™<br>Telephone: +1 520-799-4309 | tie 321-4309 | Cell: +1 520 990-8669<br>email: tpearson@us.ibm.com | GSA: http://tucgsa.ibm.com/~tpearson<br>Blog: </font><a href="http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/InsideSystemStorage" target="_blank"><font color="blue" face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size="1"><u>http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/InsideSystemStorage</u></font></a><font face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size="1"><br>AKA: 990tony Paravane, eightbar specialist </font></td></tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#006699"><br></td> <td bgcolor="#006699"><br></td></tr></tbody></table><br><br><font color="#800080" face="sans-serif" size="1">----- Forwarded by Tony Pearson/Tucson/IBM on 06/05/2008 01:22 PM -----</font> <br> <table width="100%"> <tbody> <tr valign="top"> <td width="40%"><font face="sans-serif" size="1"><b>Stefan Reitz <stefan_w_reitz@hotmail.com></b> </font><font face="sans-serif" size="1">06/05/2008 10:39 AM</font> <br></td> <td width="59%"> <table width="100%"> <tbody> <tr valign="top"> <td> <div align="right"><font face="sans-serif" size="1">To</font></div></td> <td><font face="sans-serif" size="1">Tony Pearson/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS, Martin Langhoff <martin.langhoff@gmail.com></font> </td></tr> <tr valign="top"> <td> <div align="right"><font face="sans-serif" size="1">cc</font></div></td> <td><font face="sans-serif" size="1"><server-devel@lists.laptop.org></font> </td></tr> <tr valign="top"> <td> <div align="right"><font face="sans-serif" size="1">Subject</font></div></td> <td><font face="sans-serif" size="1">RE: [Server-devel] Problems installing XS on new system for Uruguay</font></td></tr></tbody></table><br> <table> <tbody> <tr valign="top"> <td><br></td> <td><br></td></tr></tbody></table><br></td></tr></tbody></table><br><br><br><font face="Tahoma" size="2">Tony,<br><br>trying to make the XS do raid (which it does (/did?) not support by default) I learned the following:<br>Linux softraid (aka dmraid) is 'better' / 'more stable' than mother board vendor's fakeraid, so disable raid in bios and let linux dmraid take care of it. I don't know enough about ahci to comment on that option.<br><br>Since you apparently want to install to a raid 1 you'll need to 'spin' your own personalized XS distribution.<br><br>my noob approach: set up a working fedora system (on other hardware than your target system - you may need to go back to this fedora system to make changes to your new setup).<br>Get the files necessary for making your own: </font><a href="http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Building_Software" target="_blank"><font color="blue" face="Tahoma" size="2"><u>http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XS_Building_Software</u></font></a><font face="Tahoma" size="2"> distribution<br>A hands-on kickstart tutorial: </font><a href="http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/08/19/kickstart.html" target="_blank"><font color="blue" face="Tahoma" size="2"><u>http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/08/19/kickstart.html</u></font></a><font face="Tahoma" size="2"> - the 'Creating the Kickstart Config File, <i>ks.cfg</i>' section gives you some food for thought. For the more grafically oriented looking at RedHat / Fedora's 'Revisor' tool might be interesting (a quick intro can be found here: </font><a href="http://dailypackage.fedorabook.com/index.php?/archives/70-Fedora-7-Custom-Spins-with-Revisor.html" target="_blank"><font color="blue" face="Tahoma" size="2"><u>http://dailypackage.fedorabook.com/index.php?/archives/70-Fedora-7-Custom-Spins-with-Revisor.html</u></font></a><font face="Tahoma" size="2">)<br><br>Good luck<br>Stefan<br><br><br></font><br> <hr> <font face="Tahoma" size="2">To: martin.langhoff@gmail.com<br>From: tpearson@us.ibm.com<br>Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 09:31:32 -0700<br>CC: server-devel@lists.laptop.org<br>Subject: Re: [Server-devel] Problems installing XS on new system for Uruguay<br><br></font><font face="sans-serif" size="2"><br>Martin,</font><font face="Tahoma" size="2"> </font><font face="sans-serif" size="2"><br>I'll try the 'lspci' commands to see what it says.</font><font face="Tahoma" size="2"> <br></font><font face="sans-serif" size="2"><br>What 'dmesg' should I look for? -- when I do: dmesg | grep 'sd'[ab] I get that it finds both /sda and /sdb individually, so not detecting the RAID mode.</font><font face="Tahoma" size="2"> <br></font><font face="sans-serif" size="2"><br>The 'autoinstall' fails either because of the Radeon X1200 or the 'clearpart' command on Line 23. I've burned a copy of XS-160-noauto if you want me to try that.</font><font face="Tahoma" size="2"> <br></font><font face="sans-serif" size="2"><br>I've been scanning the Fedora forums for 'dmraid' support, and it doesn't look like it has support for this SB600 SATA RAID controller.</font><font face="Tahoma" size="2"> <br></font><font face="sans-serif" size="2"><br>Uruguay = EduBlog/Ceibal/Greg Smith. I am building the server to Greg's request, so whatever he is now calling this project that is what it is.</font><font face="Tahoma" size="2"> <br></font><font face="sans-serif" size="2"><br>Thanks</font><font face="Tahoma" size="2"> </font><font face="sans-serif" size="2"><br></font> <table width="100%"> <tbody> <tr> <td bgcolor="#006699" width="27%"><br></td> <td bgcolor="#006699" width="72%"><br></td></tr> <tr> <td><img src="http://gfx1.hotmail.com/mail/w2/ltr/i_safe.gif"> </td> <td><font color="#0060a0" face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size="1"><b>Tony Pearson</b></font><font face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size="1"><br>Senior Storage Consultant, IBM System Storage™<br>Telephone: +1 520-799-4309 | tie 321-4309 | Cell: +1 520 990-8669<br>email: tpearson@us.ibm.com | GSA: http://tucgsa.ibm.com/~tpearson<br>Blog: </font><a href="http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/InsideSystemStorage" target="_blank"><font color="blue" face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size="1"><u>http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/InsideSystemStorage</u></font></a><font face="Microsoft Sans Serif" size="1"><br>AKA: 990tony Paravane, eightbar specialist </font></td></tr> <tr> <td bgcolor="#006699"><br></td> <td bgcolor="#006699"><br></td></tr></tbody></table><br><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><br><br><br></font> <table width="100%"> <tbody> <tr valign="top"> <td width="51%"><font face="sans-serif" size="1"><b>'Martin Langhoff' <martin.langhoff@gmail.com></b> 06/05/2008 08:41 AM</font><font face="Tahoma" size="3"> </font></td> <td width="48%"> <table width="100%"> <tbody> <tr valign="top"> <td width="10%"> <div align="right"><font face="sans-serif" size="1">To</font></div></td> <td width="89%"><font face="sans-serif" size="1">Tony Pearson/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS</font><font face="Tahoma" size="3"> </font></td></tr> <tr valign="top"> <td> <div align="right"><font face="sans-serif" size="1">cc</font></div></td> <td><font face="sans-serif" size="1">server-devel@lists.laptop.org</font><font face="Tahoma" size="3"> </font></td></tr> <tr valign="top"> <td> <div align="right"><font face="sans-serif" size="1">Subject</font></div></td> <td><font face="sans-serif" size="1">Re: [Server-devel] Problems installing XS on new system for Uruguay</font></td></tr></tbody></table><br><br> <table width="100%"> <tbody> <tr valign="top"> <td width="50%"><br></td> <td width="50%"><br></td></tr></tbody></table><br></td></tr></tbody></table><br><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><br><br><br>2008/6/5 Tony Pearson <tpearson@us.ibm.com>:<br>> Hardware:<br><br>Nice hw! But the sata controler might not be supported. When you load<br>F8 64-bit or Ubuntu,<br><br>- what does lspci say about the SATA controller?<br>- what kernel module loads for it? (dmesg will name it)<br><br>> Problem 1: I boot from XS-163.iso and select 'Run from Image' (the first<br>> choice) and it claims that 'ATI Radeon 1200' is not supported, and that it<br><br>It often complains about graphics cards. Nothing to worry about -<br>Compiz won't be enabled on the XS ;-)<br><br>> Problem 2: I log in as 'root' and run the './olpc-install' and it fails on<br>> line 23 saying 'Specified nonexistent disk sda in clearpart command' with a<br>> big red button to 'reboot'. (see attached JPG file: img_4751b.jpg for<br>> screen shot)<br><br>Recent images are 'auto install' so you don't need to run olpc-install<br>by hand...<br><br>> Would that work? If I do that, would I be better off doing Fedora7-AMD64<br>> instead or stay with the 32-bit version?<br><br>Unfortunately, we have a few custom packages that are compiled 32-bit<br>only (nothing too bad, just a recompile away) - but I think your<br>problem is with missing drivers in F7. Can you try installing F7<br>32bits?<br><br>> Problem 3: the BIOS supports three settings: IDE, RAID and AHCI. With<br>> RAID, I can hit Ctrl-F to get to the FastBuild utility, and put the two<br>> drives into a single RAID-1 configuration, however, it does not seem that<br>> Linux recognizes that. With the two drives as one Logical RAID-1 drive, the<br>> Linux treats this as separate /dev/sda and /dev/sdb drives.<br><br>No idea bout AHCI or fakeraid - sorry<br><br>Now - one point I'd like to understand better - when you say 'for<br>uruguay' you don't mean the Ceibal team, right? (From OLPC<br>perspective, if you talk about schoolservers in Uruguay, the Ceibal<br>team is what I think of...). 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